Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:22 pm

Penner wrote:
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Instead of stopping his car and getting the police he basically drove his vehicle down a side street, towards the counter protesters, roughly a block away, and rammed into two parked cars. He ended up killing one person and injuring a number of other people. It was clearly deliberate what he did and his intent was to hurt people.

If he stopped his car, he could be dragged out, beaten, or even killed.

Your statement that he should go get the police is laughable given that the police withdrew so that the terrorists could move in and begin attacking people in the first place. The police and the terrorists work together. This has been on display on numerous occasions, starting with their riots in Berkeley.

Nor is it a new tactic. The democratic party did this shit all the way back in the civil rights era where, instead of antifa, their favored militant wing was the KKK.

Here is something interesting to consider- why drive down the block TOWARDS to the protesters? Clearly, he wanted to hurt them and this wasn't in any way in self-defense. In this case, the protesters were the ones who were trying to defend themselves when Fields rammed his car into the crowd (and also ramming not one BUT two parked cars). I mean the driver clearly fucked up his own car by ramming it with two parked cars just so he can hurt some people.
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Because the police were funneling the demonstrators into the mob after they shut down their legal rally

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:23 pm

Penner wrote:Here is something interesting to consider- why drive down the block TOWARDS to the protesters? Clearly, he wanted to hurt them and this wasn't in any way in self-defense. In this case, the protesters were the ones who were trying to defend themselves when Fields rammed his car into the crowd (and also ramming not one BUT two parked cars). I mean the driver clearly fucked up his own car by ramming it with two parked cars just so he can hurt some people.
In broad daylight, on camera, in his own car, plates on, and so no realistic prospect of evading arrest and prosecution? What do you think his mindset was? Just such a hardcore white supremacist that he's willing to do hard time for the cause?
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Penner » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:26 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Penner wrote:Here is something interesting to consider- why drive down the block TOWARDS to the protesters? Clearly, he wanted to hurt them and this wasn't in any way in self-defense. In this case, the protesters were the ones who were trying to defend themselves when Fields rammed his car into the crowd (and also ramming not one BUT two parked cars). I mean the driver clearly fucked up his own car by ramming it with two parked cars just so he can hurt some people.
In broad daylight, on camera, in his own car, plates on, and so no realistic prospect of evading arrest and prosecution? What do you think his mindset was? Just such a hardcore white supremacist that he's willing to do hard time for the cause?

Just watch the video. If you think that he didn't do it this to me sounds a bit crazy because there is video- as with what was going through his mind- really don't know for sure since I am not a mind reader. BUT his actions say that he went out of his way to hurt people.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:31 pm

Penner wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Penner wrote:Here is something interesting to consider- why drive down the block TOWARDS to the protesters? Clearly, he wanted to hurt them and this wasn't in any way in self-defense. In this case, the protesters were the ones who were trying to defend themselves when Fields rammed his car into the crowd (and also ramming not one BUT two parked cars). I mean the driver clearly fucked up his own car by ramming it with two parked cars just so he can hurt some people.
In broad daylight, on camera, in his own car, plates on, and so no realistic prospect of evading arrest and prosecution? What do you think his mindset was? Just such a hardcore white supremacist that he's willing to do hard time for the cause?
Just watch the video. If you think that he didn't do it sounds a bit crazy because there is video- as with what was going through his mind- well his actions says that he went out of his way to hurt people.
Well, as it is a motor vehicle, whoever was driving the car, because the windows are full tint so I can't actually see who it is, is responsible for the damage by default, but in terms of prosecution for felony, to wit, beyond a reasonable doubt; could have been trying to scare people, but not intending to hit any of them, and/or, could have just panicked, tried to barge his way through the crowd, and miscalculated, also having not seen through the crowd that were two cars in the way as well.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Penner » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:35 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
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In broad daylight, on camera, in his own car, plates on, and so no realistic prospect of evading arrest and prosecution? What do you think his mindset was? Just such a hardcore white supremacist that he's willing to do hard time for the cause?
Just watch the video. If you think that he didn't do it sounds a bit crazy because there is video- as with what was going through his mind- well his actions says that he went out of his way to hurt people.
Well, as it is a motor vehicle, whoever was driving the car, because the windows are full tint so I can't actually see who it is, is responsible for the damage by default, but in terms of prosecution for felony, to wit, beyond a reasonable doubt; could have been trying to scare people, but not intending to hit any of them, and/or, could have just panicked, tried to barge his way through the crowd, and miscalculated, also having not seen through the crowd that were two cars in the way as well.
So you are assuming that he just wanted to drive a block or so and ram two parked cars just to scare people? As with the panic angle, it clearly wasn't panic since he DELIBERATELY drove a block or so just so he can ram into the crowd.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:37 pm

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Oh look. Commie march in Seattle.

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it clearly wasn't panic since he DELIBERATELY drove a block or so just so he can ram into the crowd.
lol ur pretty dumb aren't you? How do you know he deliberately drove a block to intentionally hurt people? Do you know what a shit show that city was at the time when all the animals took over and the police stood down?

Nope. He's clearly a nazi case closed.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:41 pm

Penner wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Penner wrote:
Just watch the video. If you think that he didn't do it sounds a bit crazy because there is video- as with what was going through his mind- well his actions says that he went out of his way to hurt people.
Well, as it is a motor vehicle, whoever was driving the car, because the windows are full tint so I can't actually see who it is, is responsible for the damage by default, but in terms of prosecution for felony, to wit, beyond a reasonable doubt; could have been trying to scare people, but not intending to hit any of them, and/or, could have just panicked, tried to barge his way through the crowd, and miscalculated, also having not seen through the crowd that were two cars in the way as well.
So you are assuming that he just wanted to drive a block or so and ram two parked cars just to scare people? As with the panic angle, it clearly wasn't panic since he DELIBERATELY drove a block or so just so he can ram into the crowd.
Not beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended to actually hit people in the crowd, again, could have been trying barge through, and simply miscalculated, and from the angle behind, his view, I can't see the cars that he ends up hitting, all I can see is crowd, so I have my doubts that the driver even saw the parked cars until the very last moment as the crowd parted.

Is that video proof beyond a reasonable doubt of 2nd degree murder? I'd say no, I have reasonable doubt, it's almost assuredly manslaughter, but homocide with intent, I don't see proof.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:46 pm

Up until five minutes ago these MSM narrative regurgitating morons had no idea his car was being attacked with bats already before the conveniently edited video they are passing around and circle jerking over.

You guys really are dumb

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by ssu » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:47 pm

As the guy seems to be charged with second degree murder, it makes sense. Well, likely we'll here more about it.

It would be first degree murder if it would have been planned. Likely nobody plans to attack with their own car (or who knows). Had he killed more people than one it's likely that he could have faced capital punishment in Virginia. And if it would be seen as act of terrorism, then that can put you on death row in Virginia also.
Under Virginia's Criminal Code, capital murder is defined as "willful, deliberate, and premeditated" killing involving at least one of the following aggravating factors:

1.Be committed in the commission of abduction, when such abduction was committed with the intent to extort money or a pecuniary benefit or with the intent to defile the victim of such abduction;
2.Be committed for hire;
3.Be committed by a prisoner confined in a state or local correctional facility, or while in the custody of an employee thereof;
4.Be committed in the commission of robbery or attempted robbery;
5.Be committed in the commission of, or subsequent to, rape or attempted rape, forcible sodomy or attempted forcible sodomy or object sexual penetration;
6.Be committed against a law-enforcement officer, even of another state or of the federal government, when such killing is for the purpose of interfering with the performance of his official duties;
7.Be committed against more than one person as a part of the same act or transaction;
8.Be committed against more than one person within a three-year period;
9.Be committed in the commission of or attempted commission of drug trafficking;
10.Be committed pursuant to the direction or order of one who is engaged in a continuing criminal enterprise;
11.Be committed against a pregnant woman by one who knows that the woman is pregnant and has the intent to cause the involuntary termination of the woman's pregnancy without a live birth;
12.Be committed against a person under the age of 14 by a person age 21 or older;
13.Be committed in the commission of or attempted commission of an act of terrorism;
14.Be committed against a justice or judge when the killing is for the purpose of interfering with his official duties;
15.Be committed against a witness in a criminal case for the purpose of interfering with the person's duties in such case.
Hence here the second degree murder tells something. But still, murder is murder.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:49 pm

Well what are you waiting for cuck boi MSM shill. You already expressed your desire to see him killed by the state. What are you backpedaling now in light of new evidence?
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