Is anyone sick of all the winning?

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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:09 am

This site has a really good detailed explanation of it:
Harvest metrics: From a good garden with healthy soil and moderate skill level of gardener, you can expect the following harvest from a 100 square feet Three Sisters garden:
    1. Corn, 60 ears, or about 35 to 50 pounds shelled wet corn (assuming 2 well pollinated ears per plant)
    • Beans, 30 pounds or more (assuming half-pound production per plant)
    • Squash, about 150+ pounds mixed squash if summer and winter squash equally planted. If you plant only zucchini, this excellent producer can generate 300 pounds of squash in this garden.
  • Note: a 9 square feet garden will not produce 10% of the 100 square feet garden. The 100 square feet garden is the optimum size, maximizing pollination, beneficial predators, living mulch, and all other factors, much better than a smaller garden.
So 100 square feet of land can yield 200-300 lbs of food.

So for one person, I'd say maybe 200-400 square feet would do it. Maybe add to that a larger field of wheat to produce flour (and bread). Then you just need to focus on finding protein sources like fish, birds, and small game.Some hens might do the trick too, but you'd need to sacrifice some land to produce food for the hens.

But think of all the areas in a suburban environment where you have 100 square feet of just useless grass and landscaping. People could easily survive a collapse. Couple that with the fact that the first year can be hard as fuck and a lot of people aren't going to starve to death. The average fatso can make it to the next season just fine on his body fat.

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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:17 am

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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:21 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:The average fatso can make it to the next season just fine on his body fat.
I think you might want to look into that more. :lol:
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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:29 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Read my original post again, and what I was responding to. Have a friend help, if needed.

And I am arguing that when the Democrats are put into power they are corrupt and we see things like Chicago and Obama. So far when Republicans have been put into power, we see things like Texas. So I stand by my original statements.
I see. That one GOP state is running well vs that one DNC city, therefore GOP politicians are more virtuous. Ok.

Then I raise you a Chris Christie.
ROLF! One person... you raise me one person against an entire level of bureaucracy that has existed since 1931 under control of the Democrat Party.

Chris Christie is a driblet of piss compared to the torrent of sewage that the Democrats have done to Chicago since 1931.


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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:31 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The average fatso can make it to the next season just fine on his body fat.
I think you might want to look into that more. :lol:
You don't know your world history. Look at the how islands were populated... it wasn't done by skinny people unlike Disney wants you to think.
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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:32 am

The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The average fatso can make it to the next season just fine on his body fat.
I think you might want to look into that more. :lol:
You don't know your world history. Look at the how islands were populated... it wasn't done by skinny people unlike Disney wants you to think.
I'm sure. But that wasn't a bunch of fat guys that just didn't eat for 9 months :lol:
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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:33 am

The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:

And I am arguing that when the Democrats are put into power they are corrupt and we see things like Chicago and Obama. So far when Republicans have been put into power, we see things like Texas. So I stand by my original statements.
I see. That one GOP state is running well vs that one DNC city, therefore GOP politicians are more virtuous. Ok.

Then I raise you a Chris Christie.
ROLF! One person... you raise me one person against an entire level of bureaucracy that has existed since 1931 under control of the Democrat Party.

Chris Christie is a driblet of piss compared to the torrent of sewage that the Democrats have done to Chicago since 1931.


1930 Chicago:

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2016 Chicago:

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Have you ever been to Chicago? Your pics are from the South Side, I can guarantee it. They might have blown out the budget, but that city is freaking beautiful.
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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:39 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
I see. That one GOP state is running well vs that one DNC city, therefore GOP politicians are more virtuous. Ok.

Then I raise you a Chris Christie.
ROLF! One person... you raise me one person against an entire level of bureaucracy that has existed since 1931 under control of the Democrat Party.

Chris Christie is a driblet of piss compared to the torrent of sewage that the Democrats have done to Chicago since 1931.


1930 Chicago:

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2016 Chicago:

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Have you ever been to Chicago? Your pics are from the South Side, I can guarantee it. They might have blown out the budget, but that city is freaking beautiful.
I've been to Chicago, I have a friend who is a police officer there, and whatever you think, you know shit. It may look outwardly beautiful, but there is a reason why entire neighborhoods and skyscrapers are unpopulated with people and workers... and why the population has dropped significantly since then.

You can sugar coat shit all you want, it's still shit.
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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:39 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
I think you might want to look into that more. :lol:
You don't know your world history. Look at the how islands were populated... it wasn't done by skinny people unlike Disney wants you to think.
I'm sure. But that wasn't a bunch of fat guys that just didn't eat for 9 months :lol:
No, they ate very little, their canoes didn't allow for large amounts of food, so they survived off of body fat and an extremely lean diet.
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Re: Is anyone sick of all the winning?

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:22 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:This guy produced quite a lot of food in a small area using this method:




In tough times, this method could feed a lot of people. You still need more protein than those beans would provide, but still.. That's a lot of food.

I would add potatoes and carrots in separate plots. Maybe also some hot peppers and herbs for seasonings.


He also added the "fourth sister" (sunflowers) but not so much maize. Maybe it doesn't grow well in Europe.
No problem with growing corn or maize(cattle grade) in Europe, Several feilds of it nearly ripe nearby. It does deplete soil nutrients and need a lot of fertilizer though.
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