Trump's Economic Plan

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:14 pm

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Wrong. Illegal immigrants are depending on a state and facilities to be there upon arrival and will vote in favor of more state/facilities/gibs.

Legal immigrants, while also dependent on said things, will have a valuable skill that they will use to barter against the state.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:24 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Illegal immigrants are depending on a state and facilities to be there upon arrival and will vote in favor of more state/facilities/gibs.

Legal immigrants, while also dependent on said things, will have a valuable skill that they will use to barter against the state.
Nice distinction.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Penner » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:17 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Penner wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote: So now you don't believe in polls?
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... m-nonciti/

Your proof hinges on the word, "may" which makes it sound like they don't know.
Probably because we don't. This is what happens when you give anyone that wants one a way to vote.

From our article:
“Is it plausible that non-citizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes,” Mr. Richman wrote. “Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.”
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Penner » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:19 pm

“Concerning the broader fight Trump has raised, I think our results are getting taken out of context in important ways by people on the right who want to make an unsupported claim concerning massive vote fraud,” Richman told us via email. “We found low levels of non-citizen participation in elections. These levels are sufficient to change the outcomes in extremely close elections. But one should keep in mind that such elections can be swayed by any number of factors that arguably bias election results toward, or against, particular parties and candidates. Put another way, our results suggest that almost all elections in the US are not determined by non-citizen participation, with occasional and very rare potential exceptions.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps ... ud-claims/
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:22 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:800k non citizens voted according to a single survey done. Why would they lie like that?

Where is the proof of that? Voter in-person fraud is like non-existent but this keeps on coming up like it a common thing.
Yeah, that's what your side keeps saying, but a survey determined that was a lie.

Washington Times,
Trump argument bolstered: Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens

Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on noncitizen voting, and this week he posted a blog in response to Mr. Trump’s assertion.
Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.
Mr. Richman calculated that Mrs. Clinton would have collected 81 percent of noncitizen votes.
“Is it plausible that non-citizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes,” Mr. Richman wrote. “Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.”
Still, the finding is significant because it means noncitizens may have helped Mrs. Clinton carry a state or finish better

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... m-nonciti/
Fake news asshat. "Groundbreaking research" is not posted in a fucking blog. Ever.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:23 pm

The survey was done by a particular company that does such things. Can't be arsed to remember it's name right now.

But yeah. Now polls are fake but before they were totally real and I was the crazy one. Kill urself.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:39 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:

Where is the proof of that? Voter in-person fraud is like non-existent but this keeps on coming up like it a common thing.
Yeah, that's what your side keeps saying, but a survey determined that was a lie.

Washington Times,
Trump argument bolstered: Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens

Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on noncitizen voting, and this week he posted a blog in response to Mr. Trump’s assertion.
Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.
Mr. Richman calculated that Mrs. Clinton would have collected 81 percent of noncitizen votes.
“Is it plausible that non-citizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes,” Mr. Richman wrote. “Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.”
Still, the finding is significant because it means noncitizens may have helped Mrs. Clinton carry a state or finish better

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... m-nonciti/
Fake news asshat. "Groundbreaking research" is not posted in a fucking blog. Ever.
Maybe you shoulda told them not to admit it when someone called to ask.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:12 am

Great news, guys... Mercury in the waterways, and brokers don't have to do SHIT in your interest!

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... dodd-frank
resident Donald Trump will order a sweeping review of the Dodd-Frank Act rules enacted in response to the 2008 financial crisis, a White House official said, signing an executive action Friday designed to significantly scale back the regulatory system put in place in 2010.

Trump also will halt another of former President Barack Obama’s regulations, hated by the financial industry, that requires advisers on retirement accounts to work in the best interests of their clients. Trump’s order will give the new administration time to review the change, known as the fiduciary rule.

That's not all, folks! You can have your very own mortgage crisis ALL OVER AGAIN!!! AMERICA Will Be Great Again, Like It Was In 2007!
2. What’s the problem with Dodd-Frank?

Only three Republicans in the Senate and none in the House voted to approve Dodd-Frank in 2010. Specific pieces of the voluminous law that Republicans want to change include:

The Volcker Rule, which restricts banks with taxpayer-backed deposits from making “proprietary” trades, or ones based on the bank’s own discretion.
The powers of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was created as a new regulator and has toughened oversight of mortgage lending and credit cards. The agency is particularly vulnerable because a federal appeals court ruled in October that it’s "unconstitutionally structured."
The authority given the Financial Stability Oversight Council to label insurers and other non-banks as “systemically important financial institutions,” subject to federal constraints.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by boethius » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:51 am

Where's the executive order to hang banksters from lampposts?

I will actually, literally, cum in my pants if that is ever signed.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:57 am

boethius wrote:Where's the executive order to hang banksters from lampposts?

I will actually, literally, cum in my pants if that is ever signed.
Lol he loves banksters. Tea Party reaction should be amazing, if they pay attention.
(Protip: they won't)
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