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[C-Mag]

Those are actually some very good points, except for the last one. Why would you be excited about both parties being rejected, and then pretend that the One Evil Side falling apart makes things better? If anything, you're much more likely to see incredible abuses of power, when one side is completely in control.

I'd like to believe that we come through this with a minor shakeup, and build something better. But, Big Change requires Big Change. I'm not confident that we don't send the whole thing into the dirt, trying to figure out what to do. If anything, that's far more likely than a 'change and renewal' cycle.

I'll keep preparing for the worst, but I do like your outlook. I hope you're right.

To clarify, I said Left and probably should not have. I should have just said Progressives. Because the GOP is filled with Progressives too. We are going through the Death Spasms of the Progressive Century. Neo-Cons are just Progressives with a different name. They believe in the same shit, Nation Building, Social Engineering, Eugenics, etc.

My Hopes for the future, the 3 things we have to do
1) We just stop with Nation Building
2) We pull back from buying influence around the globe
3) We deal with our internal problems before we try to tell everyone else how to do things

[SuburbanFarmer]

Those are actually some very good points, except for the last one. Why would you be excited about both parties being rejected, and then pretend that the One Evil Side falling apart makes things better? If anything, you're much more likely to see incredible abuses of power, when one side is completely in control.

I'd like to believe that we come through this with a minor shakeup, and build something better. But, Big Change requires Big Change. I'm not confident that we don't send the whole thing into the dirt, trying to figure out what to do. If anything, that's far more likely than a 'change and renewal' cycle.

I'll keep preparing for the worst, but I do like your outlook. I hope you're right.

To clarify, I said Left and probably should not have. I should have just said Progressives. Because the GOP is filled with Progressives too. We are going through the Death Spasms of the Progressive Century. Neo-Cons are just Progressives with a different name. They believe in the same shit, Nation Building, Social Engineering, Eugenics, etc.

My Hopes for the future, the 3 things we have to do
1) We just stop with Nation Building
2) We pull back from buying influence around the globe
3) We deal with our internal problems before we try to tell everyone else how to do things

I am absolutely on board with all three of those things. I just don't think there's a snowball's chance of it happening.

Like I said, Big Change requires Big Change. Those that control and profit from our meddling will never stop meddling, until they're removed from their pedestals. And they will go down clawing and tearing at everything around them. That fallout is the Big Danger of our time. How can we remove corrupt, ingrained elements of our core systems, without destroying the systems?

[K@th]

My Hopes for the future, the 3 things we have to do
1) We just stop with Nation Building
2) We pull back from buying influence around the globe
3) We deal with our internal problems before we try to tell everyone else how to do things

I'm no board with all of that. I'm glad you are hopeful that Trump can accomplish that. We'll see.

[C-Mag]

Those are actually some very good points, except for the last one. Why would you be excited about both parties being rejected, and then pretend that the One Evil Side falling apart makes things better? If anything, you're much more likely to see incredible abuses of power, when one side is completely in control.

I'd like to believe that we come through this with a minor shakeup, and build something better. But, Big Change requires Big Change. I'm not confident that we don't send the whole thing into the dirt, trying to figure out what to do. If anything, that's far more likely than a 'change and renewal' cycle.

I'll keep preparing for the worst, but I do like your outlook. I hope you're right.

To clarify, I said Left and probably should not have. I should have just said Progressives. Because the GOP is filled with Progressives too. We are going through the Death Spasms of the Progressive Century. Neo-Cons are just Progressives with a different name. They believe in the same shit, Nation Building, Social Engineering, Eugenics, etc.

My Hopes for the future, the 3 things we have to do
1) We just stop with Nation Building
2) We pull back from buying influence around the globe
3) We deal with our internal problems before we try to tell everyone else how to do things

I am absolutely on board with all three of those things. I just don't think there's a snowball's chance of it happening.

Like I said, Big Change requires Big Change. Those that control and profit from our meddling will never stop meddling, until they're removed from their pedestals. And they will go down clawing and tearing at everything around them. That fallout is the Big Danger of our time. How can we remove corrupt, ingrained elements of our core systems, without destroying the systems?

The Progressives at the controls are not going down easy. IMO, this is why it was so easy to get a special counsel assigned to Trump, but fucking impossible with Clinton................... with obvious specific crimes.

Stay tuned, this shit is fun. I'm not an Anarchist, but I like a little Anarchy and Chaos. I don't need a safe predictable world. I kind of thrive in chaos.

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