Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Ex-California » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:05 pm

I think this is a really important article

How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
White people are being asked—or pushed—to take stock of their whiteness and identify with it more. This is a remarkably bad idea.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by doc_loliday » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:06 pm

DAE wanna hear about TC's first kill?

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Ex-California » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:06 pm

doc_loliday wrote:DAE wanna hear about TC's first kill?
:mrgreen:
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Penner » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:07 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:If you don't have Thomas Jefferson, is it even the United States of America anymore? America without Thomas Jefferson is kind of like the Bible without Jesus.
Which would probably please Jefferson quite a bit.
Yeah, the dude really didn't think that the nation that they set up (which is our current government) would even last 60 years. I think that his prediction was that within like 35-40 years after they set up the government it would've ended in some war and a new government would take its place.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:07 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:If you don't have Thomas Jefferson, is it even the United States of America anymore? America without Thomas Jefferson is kind of like the Bible without Jesus.
Which would probably please Jefferson quite a bit.
Not according to him;

"To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; and believing he never claimed any other." ~ Thomas Jefferson

But of course, I guess I should have redacted that, for the United States of <redacted>
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Zlaxer » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:08 pm

Penner wrote:Robert E. Lee's own descendants didn't like the violence:
But according to the Confederate general's own descendants, that very movement is at least partly responsible for spreading racism and hate. Robert E. Lee V and his sister, Tracy Lee Crittenberger, are both direct descendants of the general—and both voiced their opposition to the violence in Charlottesville that claimed one woman's life and left several people injured.

"We don't want people to think that they can hide behind Robert E. Lee's name and his life for these senseless acts of violence that occurred on Saturday," the general's great-great-grandson told Newsweek on Tuesday. "There's no place for that hate."
Even Robert E. Lee V thinks that it might be time to take down the statue:
For his part, Lee V suggested it might make sense to put the statue in a museum.

"I think that is absolutely an option, to move it to a museum and put it in the proper historical context," Lee told Newsweek. "Times were very different then. We look at the institution of slavery, and it's absolutely horrendous."
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evvz ... ists-vgtrn

Taking down the statute will do jack shit for the betterment of African Americans....glad they're focusing they're energy where it's most productive.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:10 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:If you don't have Thomas Jefferson, is it even the United States of America anymore? America without Thomas Jefferson is kind of like the Bible without Jesus.
Which would probably please Jefferson quite a bit.
Not according to him;

"To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; and believing he never claimed any other." ~ Thomas Jefferson

But of course, I guess I should have redacted that, for the United States of <redacted>
:lol:

Just saying that someone who put together their own redacted bible was open to creative editing.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Penner » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:13 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Penner wrote:Robert E. Lee's own descendants didn't like the violence:
But according to the Confederate general's own descendants, that very movement is at least partly responsible for spreading racism and hate. Robert E. Lee V and his sister, Tracy Lee Crittenberger, are both direct descendants of the general—and both voiced their opposition to the violence in Charlottesville that claimed one woman's life and left several people injured.

"We don't want people to think that they can hide behind Robert E. Lee's name and his life for these senseless acts of violence that occurred on Saturday," the general's great-great-grandson told Newsweek on Tuesday. "There's no place for that hate."
Even Robert E. Lee V thinks that it might be time to take down the statue:
For his part, Lee V suggested it might make sense to put the statue in a museum.

"I think that is absolutely an option, to move it to a museum and put it in the proper historical context," Lee told Newsweek. "Times were very different then. We look at the institution of slavery, and it's absolutely horrendous."
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evvz ... ists-vgtrn

Taking down the statute will do jack shit for the betterment of African Americans....glad they're focusing they're energy where it's most productive.

Which kinds of makes this whole, "we are losing our culture/history...." debate a bit pointless IF the descendant of the man who leads the Army of Northern Virginia is like, "meh, I guess we can just move it to a dusty old museum...."
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:16 pm

Penner wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:If you don't have Thomas Jefferson, is it even the United States of America anymore? America without Thomas Jefferson is kind of like the Bible without Jesus.
Which would probably please Jefferson quite a bit.
Yeah, the dude really didn't think that the nation that they set up (which is our current government) would even last 60 years. I think that his prediction was that within like 35-40 years after they set up the government it would've ended in some war and a new government would take its place.
Well it was 72 years, so he wasn't off by that much, because of course, the nation which they set up, is not actually your current government, your current government didn't come into effect, until after and as a result of the war that he predicted. If this was the nation which they set up, we wouldn't be listening to any of your prattling, as women were not citizens then. Which, considering the nature of your prattling, probably wasn't such a bad idea.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Zlaxer » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:22 pm

So if google is taking down white supremacists websites, how long till someone sues them for racial discrimination if they don't take down Black nationalist websites?