President Trump - 1st State of the Union

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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:52 am

The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL LMAO

I for one cannot wait to be a coal miner.
Coal is processed and utilized in such a way that it is significantly cleaner than it was even 20 years ago.
Asbestos might be 'significantly safer', but I'm not putting it in my house :lol:
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by kybkh » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:54 am

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Settle down on the coal attacks Kath. The families who live in areas that rely on coal mining jobs are the sons and daughters of the men who made your big city life possible. They have sacrificed incessantly just to scratch by only to be stabbed in the back.
So when the cars came out, did the president give a SOTU where he decried cars and promised to save the jobs of the buggy makers? Progress can be painful.
I don't know did a President ever stump on the fact that they were driving families into poverty while handing out 100 million dollar grants to "clean energy" folks on the coast??
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:56 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 41971.html

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.
Yeah, go after the Paris climate accord while propping up a handful of jobs in ''clean coal''.
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:56 am

kybkh wrote:
Kath wrote:
kybkh wrote:

Settle down on the coal attacks Kath. The families who live in areas that rely on coal mining jobs are the sons and daughters of the men who made your big city life possible. They have sacrificed incessantly just to scratch by only to be stabbed in the back.
So when the cars came out, did the president give a SOTU where he decried cars and promised to save the jobs of the buggy makers? Progress can be painful.
I don't know did a President ever stump on the fact that they were driving families into poverty while handing out 100 million dollar grants to "clean energy" folks on the coast??
The only thing 'driving families into poverty' in coal country, is that we've moved away from coal as an energy source. Those people need to move on as well, simple as that.
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:59 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL LMAO

I for one cannot wait to be a coal miner.
Coal is processed and utilized in such a way that it is significantly cleaner than it was even 20 years ago.
Asbestos might be 'significantly safer', but I'm not putting it in my house :lol:
In most cases you can't... most companies refuse to deal with it because of the legalities and long-term issues it may cause around children, etc. Hell some states in the US have banned it entirely...

Coal is a lot cleaner, and safer... hell you want electric cars... you use coal to charge them.
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by kybkh » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:04 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Sort of a Love/Hate thing at best, coal mining.
Well, for people who immigrated to this country from shitholes, these were the best jobs they could get and they were the only people willing to do the work. They were taken advantage of by their employers and used as near slave labor to power every major city in this nation for damn near 100 years.

So you have these communities see, that played by the rules. They worked hard and sacrificed for their country on the battlefield and in the coal mines and they were ardent Democrats, being Union and all. So as just as their industry hits extremely hard times the party they supported for decades brags about how many families in the Appalachia they put on food stamps. Turns their back on them because "white rural America is dying" and spreads open their arms for the newest cheap labor in town.
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by C-Mag » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:07 am

IMO, The biggest story here is Democrats.

It's clear they do not accept the result of the election and should be treated as a hostile party.
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by K@th » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:09 am

Many industries have died, Ky. It's a necessary result of progress. The buggy makers had to find new things to do; the textile workers had to find new things to do. Are you old enough to remember punch cards? We put those people out of jobs, too.

People have to evolve. We still need coal, yes, but let's not pretend that coal mining is beautiful and clean. Have you ever held a piece of coal in your hand? Was your hand clean and beautiful after holding it?

Coal is ugly. Mining coal is dirty work. Pretending it's not, just because it's better than it was, is disingenuous.
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by StCapps » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:10 am

Kath wrote:
kybkh wrote:

Settle down on the coal attacks Kath. The families who live in areas that rely on coal mining jobs are the sons and daughters of the men who made your big city life possible. They have sacrificed incessantly just to scratch by only to be stabbed in the back.
So when the cars came out, did the president give a SOTU where he decried cars and promised to save the jobs of the buggy makers? Progress can be painful.

Pretending coal is beautiful and clean is silly. Anyone who says coal is beautiful and clean looks like an idiot.
Let the market handle coal, no need to ban it, no need to prop it up with subsidies. If it dies, it dies, no need to have government strangle the industry prematurely.
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Re: President Trump - 1st State of the Union

Post by K@th » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:11 am

C-Mag wrote:IMO, The biggest story here is Democrats.

It's clear they do not accept the result of the election and should be treated as a hostile party.
The opposition is always hostile. It's their job. Quit pretending the republicans stood and cheered during Obama's speeches. I saw far more democrats applauding than I expected, and even standing at times. Nancy had a few minions sitting around her - she was forbidding them from doing anything other than scowling. Other democrats had their own opinions.

It was pretty normal. No hecklers.
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