The Opioid Crisis

[clubgop]

This is where you look like a dolt. They were on 70mg a day! No wonder, that is for opioid tolerant only, if you take that it is likely you are already addicted and if not a guarnetee you will become addicted. 20 years ago show me the commercials now. Such ravenous, open faced dishonesty.

[Speaker to Animals]

You will get physical dependency, but not necessarily addiction. The withdrawal still sucks balls, but it's not like you have to fight some psychological bullshit to stop.

Honestly, oxycontin wasn't that hard to taper down. The absolute worst withdrawal I ever experienced was from just tramadol. That stuff, if you take it for years, is going to give you a hard time when it no longer works to stop the pain and you want to stop taking it. Really hard time.

I took pain meds at max doses for over ten years. I am still alive. I didn't get addicted. When they stopped working, I tapered off over the course of about six months. I got better results by focusing on rehabing my muscles and constantly keeping them broken down from resistance training.

Personally, I think chronic pain patients are better off taking pain meds if at all in a strategic fashion. Only take them at night so you can sleep without pain, or only when the pain spikes, and always at the lowest dose possible. Never take it for enough time that your body becomes at all dependent on it. Definitely don't take it regularly throughout the day every day. It will eventually stop working and you will have to stop, and that's really painful. The problem is that none of that can really be managed by a doctor effectively. That's sporadic use of the drug and he has no way of figuring out if you took it for too long and are starting to become dependent.

[Fife]

[K@th]

With Kellyanne in charge of fixing this crisis, problem will be gone any day now.

[de officiis]

Idaho Doc Gets 16 Years For Illegal Opioid Prescriptions

An Idaho doctor convicted of 71 counts of illegally dispensing opioids, including to his mistress and to patients under 21, was sentenced Wednesday to 16 years in federal prison.

Prosecutors alleged that Dr. Rafael Beier, 63, distributed opioids to over a dozen patients over the course of several years, traded sexual favors in exchange for prescriptions on several occasions, fled into the mountains behind his house after he was convicted, and was “unrepentant and unable to accept his guilt.” The prosecution had recommended a 20-year sentence.

[Ex-California]

Who likes depressants anyway?

I can understand stimulants, but sinking in a pool of weird cotton? No thanks

[heydaralon]

Who likes depressants anyway?

I can understand stimulants, but sinking in a pool of weird cotton? No thanks

Someone told me from a public policy stance, cocaine is actually more problematic because while opium derived stuff makes you dependent, there is still a methadone option. I dont think that exists for cocaine. I might be wrong about this. Cocaine is more toxic to your organs as well.
The problem with uppers is that eventually they wear off and you either have to take more, or drink some booze so you can sleep for your shift that is in four hours lol

[Speaker to Animals]

Who likes depressants anyway?

I can understand stimulants, but sinking in a pool of weird cotton? No thanks

Someone told me from a public policy stance, cocaine is actually more problematic because while opium derived stuff makes you dependent, there is still a methadone option. I dont think that exists for cocaine. I might be wrong about this. Cocaine is more toxic to your organs as well.
The problem with uppers is that eventually they wear off and you either have to take more, or drink some booze so you can sleep for your shift that is in four hours lol

Opiates do something similar but with respect to emotion and mental health. As a person stops taking them, they will feel deeply depressed. It can be suicidal for some.

[The Conservative]

100% agree.

[K@th]

The absolute worst withdrawal I ever experienced was from just tramadol. That stuff, if you take it for years, is going to give you a hard time when it no longer works to stop the pain and you want to stop taking it. Really hard time.

I disagree. I was taking Tramadol for five years (not daily, though,) for an off-label use. When the government said I couldn't have it anymore (about five years ago,) my doctor put me on Wellbutrin instead.

I experienced no withdrawals whatsoever and it never stopped working for me. Wellbutrin is fine, but not as good as what I was getting from the Tramodol.