10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

[Smitty-48]

Good soldier, probably. Stone cold killer, nah. Not in the dna. Unless my family was threatened, of course. Then I'd feel very bad that the enemy brought it on themselves.

The black flag suh, no quarter to the violaters of our homes and firesides.

What about the Iraqis and the Afghans tho? Near as I can tell, they never came anywhere near your homes and firesides never mind violated them. Come to think of it, neither did the Vietnamese, Chinese, North Koreans, nor even the Germans actually, I mean, I suppose you could get the Germans on sinking merchant vessels, but you were shipping weapons to the British after all, technically fair game to sink that.

[heydaralon]

Squanto was pretty close to our firesides.

[Okeefenokee]

You’re actually serious, too.

If there aren't any Americans who want to be small farmers, then you need to put your monsanto railing to rest.

You can't have it both ways.

LMFAO You think we’re going to shift back to a nation of yeoman farmers once the laborers are all deported?? Mao, indeed!

Even if you magically whisked away the entire Big Ag Land empires, and distributed them to people that actually want to farm, you’d have a third of the world starving before they could get the fields planted.

The economy does not turn on a dime, let alone the entire food infrastructure of the country.

EDIT: holy shit, I just reread your post, and you’re actually equating field laborers to ‘small farmers’. That’s like calling a cashier a Retailer LOL

Oh thank you. I needed that...

I'm pointing out the nonsense in the assertion that there aren't any Americans who want to be farmers.

You, being the anti-monsanto member, can't suddenly turn around and argue against them at the same time.

Pick one.

[SuburbanFarmer]

If there aren't any Americans who want to be small farmers, then you need to put your monsanto railing to rest.

You can't have it both ways.

LMFAO You think we’re going to shift back to a nation of yeoman farmers once the laborers are all deported?? Mao, indeed!

Even if you magically whisked away the entire Big Ag Land empires, and distributed them to people that actually want to farm, you’d have a third of the world starving before they could get the fields planted.

The economy does not turn on a dime, let alone the entire food infrastructure of the country.

EDIT: holy shit, I just reread your post, and you’re actually equating field laborers to ‘small farmers’. That’s like calling a cashier a Retailer LOL

Oh thank you. I needed that...

I'm pointing out the nonsense in the assertion that there aren't any Americans who want to be farmers.

You, being the anti-monsanto member, can't suddenly turn around and argue against them at the same time.

Pick one.

I would love to be a yeoman farmer. Hell, if you wiped out the Big Ag labor force, I’d soon be a wealthy man, just selling $20 carrots at the farm market. I mean, I still would be caught up in the whole economic collapse, but produce sales would be amazing.

I’ve been saying the same as MilSpecs for a long time now - you had better pray that Trump doesn’t find a way to actually follow through on deportation any time soon. If you stretch it out 10-20 years,maybe we find a solution, or the dollar can be resurrected enough for an American to survive at menial labor pay.

Until then, this is a Gordian Knot, and hitting it with a sword would be an incredibly bad idea.

[heydaralon]

LMFAO You think we’re going to shift back to a nation of yeoman farmers once the laborers are all deported?? Mao, indeed!

Even if you magically whisked away the entire Big Ag Land empires, and distributed them to people that actually want to farm, you’d have a third of the world starving before they could get the fields planted.

The economy does not turn on a dime, let alone the entire food infrastructure of the country.

EDIT: holy shit, I just reread your post, and you’re actually equating field laborers to ‘small farmers’. That’s like calling a cashier a Retailer LOL

Oh thank you. I needed that...

I'm pointing out the nonsense in the assertion that there aren't any Americans who want to be farmers.

You, being the anti-monsanto member, can't suddenly turn around and argue against them at the same time.

Pick one.

I would love to be a yeoman farmer. Hell, if you wiped out the Big Ag labor force, I’d soon be a wealthy man, just selling $20 carrots at the farm market. I mean, I still would be caught up in the whole economic collapse, but produce sales would be amazing.

I’ve been saying the same as MilSpecs for a long time now - you had better pray that Trump doesn’t find a way to actually follow through on deportation any time soon. If you stretch it out 10-20 years,maybe we find a solution, or the dollar can be resurrected enough for an American to survive at menial labor pay.

Until then, this is a Gordian Knot, and hitting it with a sword would be an incredibly bad idea.

Do you really think Americans would pay that much for carrots? Potatoes and corn and wheat are the only things Americans eat, because they can be processed in such that all nutritional content is removed. Immigrants go first, then the fatties get their hoverounds unplugged and left in the woods imo.

[Okeefenokee]

That's always the sob story from the people who don't want to lose their slaves.

How will we afford it?

Never stopping once to address the morality of their defense. They'll throw moral attacks at you all day for opposing their immoral support for quasi-slave labor, but when they have to defend it, they jump right past the moral arguments, and go straight up utilitarianism.

Because there's no way to defend it morally. The same people who want a 20 dollar minimum wage for burger flippers kick and scream at the thought of having to pay a reasonable price for a head of lettuce.

It's asinine.

[heydaralon]

I would pay $65 for a head of iceberg lettuce. You can't put a price on good nutrition.

[Okeefenokee]

I would pay $65 for a head of iceberg lettuce. You can't put a price on good nutrition.

Send me the money.

[heydaralon]

I would pay $65 for a head of iceberg lettuce. You can't put a price on good nutrition.

Send me the money.

I meant 65 pesos. Sorry English isn't my first language.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

If our biggest problem is the immorality of keeping a load of foreigners in quasi-bondage, well shit, just make 'em citizens so they are protected by labor laws.

Easy.

And, all them Americans that are lining up for shit jobs at shit wages won't be priced out, but fuck that, if they're willing to work, start busking you go-getting self-starters. Wages are about as good as picking fruit if you are any good, and it ain't near as bad for your back.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility and initiative in this country. All 'wah wah wah, pwease pwotect me big gub'ment' these days.