Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:54 pm

Penner wrote:
ssu wrote:
Nukedog wrote: Conveniently ignoring the fact that his car was being attacked already and he had the brake lights on.

We have the video. You faggots I expect to believe it was a terrorist attack because quite frankly, you're pretty fucking stupid.
SELF DEFENCE!!!! IT WAS SELF DEFENCE!!!
Nukedog wrote:Meanwhile ssu is wishing death on this kid because he disagrees with his apparent politics without ever considering the fact it was a simple freakout.

Faggots all
A simple freakout?

Seems that neonazis have the strangest ways to freakout.
But a freak out isn't self-defense. this guy clearly deliberately rammed into the crowd.

Then what would you reckon the left has been doing for the past year?

I have seen them attack (in mobs) Americans going to free speech rallies, Americans walking through the airport while wearing a MAGA hat (that guy was put into a coma), Americans dragged from their vehicles and beaten nearly to death, Americans tortured for being white, Americans hunted down like animals in race riots fomented by the democratic party to be beaten and robbed for being white, and more. I have seen the democratic party pay to bus in agitators and rioters in order to attack Trump supporters who went to Trump's campaign rallies.

Remind me who the terrorists are again?

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:58 pm

Penner wrote:When you look at the video it shows that he deliberately drives into the crowd and rams not one but two cars.

The guy drove his own Dodge Challenger into people and other cars, deliberately, on camera, in broad daylight? Are you sure the owner of the car was actually driving it at the time? Because if someone was going to do that, premeditated, you'd think they wouldn't use their own car but rather steal someone elses.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Penner » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Penner wrote:
ssu wrote: SELF DEFENCE!!!! IT WAS SELF DEFENCE!!!


A simple freakout?

Seems that neonazis have the strangest ways to freakout.
But a freak out isn't self-defense. this guy clearly deliberately rammed into the crowd.

It sure as shit could be. Antifa and BLM have dragged people from vehicles and inflicted grave bodily harm on them. Repeatedly. If they attack your vehicle, you do in my opinion have grounds to act in self-defense. It depends upon the circumstances, and I doubt any lawyer will try to argue it, because he really did seem to freak out. But it's ridiculous to pretend as if there doesn't exist good reason to act decisively when that group of people attack your vehicle.
Instead of stopping his car and getting the police he basically drove his vehicle down a side street, towards the counter protesters, roughly a block away, and rammed into two parked cars. He ended up killing one person and injuring a number of other people. It was clearly deliberate what he did and his intent was to hurt people.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by ssu » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:02 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote: So they saved you from the Soviets, and like savages, you turned around and attacked your protectors? Figures.
Was part of the deal to have a cease-fire with the allies. That's what a dispensable nation has to do to save it's miserable independence. Who the fuck cares about a few million people? (Noteworthy is that the US and Finland were never at war. The UK was... if before it was sending troops to help us in 1940.)

Yet in reality, Finns haven't forgotten the help Germany gave them especially during the Soviet Summer Offensive in '44.

And also what is noteworthy to say, that fight was quite clean by WW2 standards. Germans didn't do any attrocities towards the people in Lapland. Actually the German allowed and even in some places helped in the evacuation of the civilian population into Sweden from Northern Finland. The only thing is that they demolished everything on their way when withdrawing. With German thoroughness.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:04 pm

Penner wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Penner wrote:
But a freak out isn't self-defense. this guy clearly deliberately rammed into the crowd.

It sure as shit could be. Antifa and BLM have dragged people from vehicles and inflicted grave bodily harm on them. Repeatedly. If they attack your vehicle, you do in my opinion have grounds to act in self-defense. It depends upon the circumstances, and I doubt any lawyer will try to argue it, because he really did seem to freak out. But it's ridiculous to pretend as if there doesn't exist good reason to act decisively when that group of people attack your vehicle.
Instead of stopping his car and getting the police he basically drove his vehicle down a side street, towards the counter protesters, roughly a block away, and rammed into two parked cars. He ended up killing one person and injuring a number of other people. It was clearly deliberate what he did and his intent was to hurt people.
THE POLICE WERE STANDING DOWN AND PERMITTING THE VIOLENCE YOU MASSIVE CUNT

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Re: Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:05 pm

Penner wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Penner wrote:
But a freak out isn't self-defense. this guy clearly deliberately rammed into the crowd.

It sure as shit could be. Antifa and BLM have dragged people from vehicles and inflicted grave bodily harm on them. Repeatedly. If they attack your vehicle, you do in my opinion have grounds to act in self-defense. It depends upon the circumstances, and I doubt any lawyer will try to argue it, because he really did seem to freak out. But it's ridiculous to pretend as if there doesn't exist good reason to act decisively when that group of people attack your vehicle.
Instead of stopping his car and getting the police he basically drove his vehicle down a side street, towards the counter protesters, roughly a block away, and rammed into two parked cars. He ended up killing one person and injuring a number of other people. It was clearly deliberate what he did and his intent was to hurt people.

If he stopped his car, he could be dragged out, beaten, or even killed.

Your statement that he should go get the police is laughable given that the police withdrew so that the terrorists could move in and begin attacking people in the first place. The police and the terrorists work together. This has been on display on numerous occasions, starting with their riots in Berkeley.

Nor is it a new tactic. The democratic party did this shit all the way back in the civil rights era where, instead of antifa, their favored militant wing was the KKK.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Penner » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:09 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Penner wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

It sure as shit could be. Antifa and BLM have dragged people from vehicles and inflicted grave bodily harm on them. Repeatedly. If they attack your vehicle, you do in my opinion have grounds to act in self-defense. It depends upon the circumstances, and I doubt any lawyer will try to argue it, because he really did seem to freak out. But it's ridiculous to pretend as if there doesn't exist good reason to act decisively when that group of people attack your vehicle.
Instead of stopping his car and getting the police he basically drove his vehicle down a side street, towards the counter protesters, roughly a block away, and rammed into two parked cars. He ended up killing one person and injuring a number of other people. It was clearly deliberate what he did and his intent was to hurt people.

If he stopped his car, he could be dragged out, beaten, or even killed.

Your statement that he should go get the police is laughable given that the police withdrew so that the terrorists could move in and begin attacking people in the first place. The police and the terrorists work together. This has been on display on numerous occasions, starting with their riots in Berkeley.

Nor is it a new tactic. The democratic party did this shit all the way back in the civil rights era where, instead of antifa, their favored militant wing was the KKK.

Here is something interesting to consider- why drive down the block TOWARDS to the protesters? Clearly, he wanted to hurt them and this wasn't in any way in self-defense. In this case, the protesters were the ones who were trying to defend themselves when Fields rammed his car into the crowd (and also ramming not one BUT two parked cars). I mean the driver clearly fucked up his own car by ramming it with two parked cars just so he can hurt some people.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by ssu » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:13 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Then what would you reckon the left has been doing for the past year?

I have seen them attack (in mobs) Americans going to free speech rallies, Americans walking through the airport while wearing a MAGA hat (that guy was put into a coma), Americans dragged from their vehicles and beaten nearly to death, Americans tortured for being white, Americans hunted down like animals in race riots fomented by the democratic party to be beaten and robbed for being white, and more. I have seen the democratic party pay to bus in agitators and rioters in order to attack Trump supporters who went to Trump's campaign rallies.

Remind me who the terrorists are again?
You genuinely think I approve of that?

I think I was quite clear that I hate every goddam person that starts throwing rocks, beating others and inciting a riot in a political rally. And especially those who in the course of it maim or kill people and truly want to kill people. Those kind people belong in prison or be taken out before the cause damage. To condemn it when one side is doing it, yet praising when the other side does it simply isn't my thing.

Sorry, but I'm those guys who believe that violence can be used when the law permits it. And this particular case doesn't look like self-defence.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by de officiis » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:22 pm

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
de officiis wrote:Now they assaulted this Jason Kessler guy during a press conference...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rence.html
As ridiculous as I find tiki torch Nazis in general, you're really not supposed to assault them, right? Especially in broad daylight, at a press conference, with the cameras rolling, in front of the police.
When people are no longer able to maintain a rational dialogue over important political issues, they will find other ways to express themselves. The maintenance of political thoughts will, one way or another, lead to the expression of political ideas. That they increasingly find themselves expressed through violent means is the present tragedy of our society.
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