Unfolding London Bridge Incident

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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:19 pm

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
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Which is why Osama bin Laden was happy with Bush the Younger's invasions. He wanted a big conflict between the West and Islam. We would be doing what ISIS wants us to do.
And when we do nothing, we do what ISIS wants us to do. When we let in more Muslims, we do what ISIS wants us to do. When we try to keep them out, we do what ISIS wants us to do.
Tell us what ISIS doesn't want us to do.
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Who gives a fuck what these psycho fucks want? Instead of nation building, we just break these places. Let them fight over the pieces.

Let's see, 3,000 killed.

In return 2 nations invaded, drone attacks on something like 10 (sovereign) nations including funerals, weddings, traveling parties, party-parties, town meetings, "suspected" terrorists, revival of ISIS, destabilizing of at least 4 governments, and hundreds of thousands (at least) deaths, injuries, and creation of refugees which also leads to European immigration crisis. And the creation of millions of angry, upset, often hungry, impoverished, unemployed people by the multiple wars we started, or supported, and did not win.

ISIS as an individual organization was almost dead, the we invaded, destabilized Iraq, and then failed to finish the destruction of ISIS while weakening Iraq's ability to do so.

If we had gone after just Osama bin Landen, almost nobody would have gainsaid us. But we did not do that, did we? Perhaps rather than demonizing the millions of people we have hurt, and often radicalize, we should have done, and do, something different?

Now though, we are all the King's men, and all the King's horses, and we have Humpty Dumpty all broken. So your suggestions on what we should do now is about as good as mine.
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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:22 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Orangemen are not on the Left, we're so far to the Right, God himself is a Lefty Wefty compared to us.

We might say God, Queen, Country, but really we're just being nice to God, he doesn't really come before the Crown.
You know, it's almost as if some of these uppity colonists know nothing about any thing... :o
Can't tell the difference between the Light of Civilization and the Whore of Babylon, these Cousinfuckers, eh wot?
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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by Ex-California » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:57 pm

Based Iran

Persia over Arabia

Iran says London attacks 'wake up call', urges uprooting terrorism sources
Iran said on Sunday the London attacks were a "wake-up call" and urged Western states to go after ideological and financial sources of terrorism, state media reported, in a thinly veiled reference to Saudi Arabia.
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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:13 pm

California wrote:Based Iran

Persia over Arabia

Iran says London attacks 'wake up call', urges uprooting terrorism sources
Iran said on Sunday the London attacks were a "wake-up call" and urged Western states to go after ideological and financial sources of terrorism, state media reported, in a thinly veiled reference to Saudi Arabia.
Sunni and Shia Muslims don't get on. Who knew?
We need to get this information out to the wider world.....
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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:28 pm

Tbf sunnis are the ones terrorizing Europe. Shi'ites mainly stick to Israel and that theatre for their terrorism though iirc there may have been an incident in Europe or two.

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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:35 pm

The main reason Hezbollah is less inclined to terrorism of late, is that in South Lebanon they basically won, they have become the islamic state which the Islamic State aspires to be, and in South Iraq, the Americans won it for them, deposed the Sunnis and put them in charge. At this juncture, the Shia don't need to be terrorists, because they actually have an army now, which can seize and hold territory, including Abrams tanks, supplied by Uncle Sam himself.

The Shia Arabs; in South Lebanon, they are defending a heavily entrenched fortress, in South Iraq, they are on the march as a combined arms mechanized force, up to and including an air force.

Donald Trump is right; terrorists are the losers, once you have an army, you don't need to be a terrorist anymore, cause; #winning.
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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by clubgop » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:05 pm

ISIS as an individual organization was almost dead, the we invaded, destabilized Iraq, and then failed to finish the destruction of ISIS while weakening Iraq's ability to do so.
Wot? What alternative history is this? ISIS didn't exist before the Iraq invasion. You blame America first people can't get your story straight.
If we had gone after just Osama bin Landen, almost nobody would have gainsaid us.
Back to the Democrat story of Afghanistan being the "good" war.

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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by The Conservative » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:48 pm

clubgop wrote:
ISIS as an individual organization was almost dead, the we invaded, destabilized Iraq, and then failed to finish the destruction of ISIS while weakening Iraq's ability to do so.
Wot? What alternative history is this? ISIS didn't exist before the Iraq invasion. You blame America first people can't get your story straight.
If we had gone after just Osama bin Landen, almost nobody would have gainsaid us.
Back to the Democrat story of Afghanistan being the "good" war.
Actually if we allow OBL to push into Iraq instead of using our own troops like he wanted, we'd not know where we would be today... instead We went against his wishes and we got exactly what we have today because of it.
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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by clubgop » Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:29 pm

The Conservative wrote:
clubgop wrote:
ISIS as an individual organization was almost dead, the we invaded, destabilized Iraq, and then failed to finish the destruction of ISIS while weakening Iraq's ability to do so.
Wot? What alternative history is this? ISIS didn't exist before the Iraq invasion. You blame America first people can't get your story straight.
If we had gone after just Osama bin Landen, almost nobody would have gainsaid us.
Back to the Democrat story of Afghanistan being the "good" war.
Actually if we allow OBL to push into Iraq instead of using our own troops like he wanted, we'd not know where we would be today... instead We went against his wishes and we got exactly what we have today because of it.
Uh Wut? Was there a game of risk I was unaware of?

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Re: Unfolding London Bridge Incident

Post by The Conservative » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:39 am

clubgop wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Wot? What alternative history is this? ISIS didn't exist before the Iraq invasion. You blame America first people can't get your story straight.



Back to the Democrat story of Afghanistan being the "good" war.
Actually if we allow OBL to push into Iraq instead of using our own troops like he wanted, we'd not know where we would be today... instead We went against his wishes and we got exactly what we have today because of it.
Uh Wut? Was there a game of risk I was unaware of?
Nope, OBL wanted to use his troops to invade Iraq instead of letting foreigners on it. Iraq was considered "Holy Land" by his sect. To them anyone that wasn't a believer of Islam was forbidden.

We went forward without him, he got enraged and as they say the future was written.
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