Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

[jbird4049]

I predict no response from brewster.

Clearly, I neglected to state "nonwhite American Nationalist". Mea culpa, but in context didn't think it needed to be said. The reality is both here and in other european or european colonized nations with nonwhite immigrant populations you don't typically find them spouting the nationalist line.

So there's no such thing as a civic nationalism, but just a Hitlerian blood, or racial nationalisms or like the Black Nationalists?
I don't agree. Being white is not the same as being an American no matter what the alt-right would have you believe. And if you are an American you are part of the American Nation.

It's just that almost all Americans subscribing to "nationalism" as a political philosophy happen to be white.

I must be the exception in using that label, I don't think I am exceptional in being one. Well, conservative jackasses twisted the labels Liberal, Social Democracy, Socialism, Communism, and Marxism. Maybe I should try to undistort the label of nationalist.

[Okeefenokee]

It's just that almost all Americans subscribing to "nationalism" as a political philosophy happen to be white. Perhaps there's confusion of terms. Can you briefly define what you consider "nationalism"?

uhuh

Chavez acolytes today try to explain away his hawkish pro-border views as coming from a different historical context, applicable only to specific strikes and the strike-breakers that farmers tried to import. But this is false.

In fact, even before he started the union and fought against illegal immigration, he was opposed to the bracero program, which legally imported cheap, disposable labor from Mexico at the expense of American citizens (of Mexican and other origins) who had been working in the fields. Pawel quotes Chavez as saying, “It looks almost impossible to start some effective program to get these people their jobs back from the braceros.”

Congress ended the bracero program in 1964, and the next 15 years were the salad days, as it were, for farmworkers — until illegal immigration became so pervasive (despite Chavez’s efforts) that workers lost all bargaining power.

But during those 15 years, Chavez fought illegal immigration tenaciously. In 1969, he marched to the Mexican border to protest farmers’ use of illegal aliens as strikebreakers. He was joined by Reverend Ralph Abernathy and Senator Walter Mondale.

In the mid 1970s, he conducted the “Illegals Campaign” to identify and report illegal workers, “an effort he deemed second in importance only to the boycott” (of produce from non-unionized farms), according to Pawel. She quotes a memo from Chavez that said, “If we can get the illegals out of California, we will win the strike overnight.”

The Illegals Campaign didn’t just report illegals to the (unresponsive) federal authorities. Cesar sent his cousin, ex-con Manuel Chavez, down to the border to set up a “wet line” (as in “wetbacks”) to do the job the Border Patrol wasn’t being allowed to do. Unlike the Minutemen of a few years ago, who arrived at the border with no more than lawn chairs and binoculars, the United Farm Workers patrols were willing to use direct methods when persuasion failed. Housed in a series of tents along the Arizona border, the crews in the wet line sometimes beat up illegals, the “cesarchavistas” employing violence even more widely on the Mexican side of the border to prevent crossings.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ration-foe

You're gonna fall on your face with this, "only white people care about their nations," enough times to give you brain damage before you realize you're fucking wrong.

[clubgop]

It's just that almost all Americans subscribing to "nationalism" as a political philosophy happen to be white. Perhaps there's confusion of terms. Can you briefly define what you consider "nationalism"?

uhuh

Chavez acolytes today try to explain away his hawkish pro-border views as coming from a different historical context, applicable only to specific strikes and the strike-breakers that farmers tried to import. But this is false.

In fact, even before he started the union and fought against illegal immigration, he was opposed to the bracero program, which legally imported cheap, disposable labor from Mexico at the expense of American citizens (of Mexican and other origins) who had been working in the fields. Pawel quotes Chavez as saying, “It looks almost impossible to start some effective program to get these people their jobs back from the braceros.”

Congress ended the bracero program in 1964, and the next 15 years were the salad days, as it were, for farmworkers — until illegal immigration became so pervasive (despite Chavez’s efforts) that workers lost all bargaining power.

But during those 15 years, Chavez fought illegal immigration tenaciously. In 1969, he marched to the Mexican border to protest farmers’ use of illegal aliens as strikebreakers. He was joined by Reverend Ralph Abernathy and Senator Walter Mondale.

In the mid 1970s, he conducted the “Illegals Campaign” to identify and report illegal workers, “an effort he deemed second in importance only to the boycott” (of produce from non-unionized farms), according to Pawel. She quotes a memo from Chavez that said, “If we can get the illegals out of California, we will win the strike overnight.”

The Illegals Campaign didn’t just report illegals to the (unresponsive) federal authorities. Cesar sent his cousin, ex-con Manuel Chavez, down to the border to set up a “wet line” (as in “wetbacks”) to do the job the Border Patrol wasn’t being allowed to do. Unlike the Minutemen of a few years ago, who arrived at the border with no more than lawn chairs and binoculars, the United Farm Workers patrols were willing to use direct methods when persuasion failed. Housed in a series of tents along the Arizona border, the crews in the wet line sometimes beat up illegals, the “cesarchavistas” employing violence even more widely on the Mexican side of the border to prevent crossings.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ration-foe

You're gonna fall on your face with this, "only white people care about their nations," enough times to give you brain damage before you realize you're fucking wrong.

Come on, you should know by now the brain damage will only enhance their liberalism.

[brewster]

You're gonna fall on your face with this, "only white people care about their nations," enough times to give you brain damage before you realize you're fucking wrong.

You can find exceptions, but you can't change the fact that very few nonwhites supported Trump and his Nationalist policies. Nonwhite Americans care deeply about their nation, they just don't see the racist policies of Trump as the answer to our problems.

(Anybody know how to shrink images?

[Dand]

Which policies are racist?

[BjornP]

The reality is both here and in other european or european colonized nations with nonwhite immigrant populations you don't typically find them spouting the nationalist line.

I'm sorry, what now? Depending on your classification of white/non-white:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolv ... ern_Europe

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/eu ... -1.3014973

[StCapps]

Brewster has clearly never heard of Louis Farrakhan.

[Okeefenokee]

[heydaralon]

Colbert is pretty funny for people with Down Syndrome. That might not be fair. They might be retarded, but even they have some standards. I'm surprised Colbert still has insurance, because I thought under TrumpCare trisomy was a pre-existing condition...

[brewster]

Brewster has clearly never heard of Louis Farrakhan.

Can you clarify what he has to do with Nationalism. I understood racism to be his specialty. Has he spoken of immigration?

I'm sorry, what now? Depending on your classification of white/non-white:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolv ... ern_Europe

Turkish Nationalist operating in a European country aren't Nationlists for THAT country! We're talking about immigrants with Nationalist attitudes for their adopted country.