How's that Obamacare Repeal Working Out For You?

[TheReal_ND]

Another thing is, the better the deal for us, the worse for their lobbyists. You better believe republicucks will take a beating at the polls if it comes to it. The entire party is designed to act like they keep progressives in check only to lose out eventually. Watch, it's not over yet. What a mess! Sad!

[Ph64]

So you mean Trump when you say cuck. Got it.

You bet. Trump said his Health Plan was going to cover more people and be "amazing." Cuck.

p.s. The only way universal healthcare can cover more people is if anyone not signed up is automatically on Medicare.
p.p.s. I outlined a bunch of ways healthcare can be made cheaper.

It's so obvious what needs to happen, and yet so few people are saying it. We are still somewhat stuck in that old paradigm.

Putting the uninsured on Medicare is about the only feasible solution that works that I can think of.

So putting everyone on medicare from birth. Because as soon as companies figure out they don't need to offer those pesky healthcare plans to employees guaranteed it'll stop - except maybe some gold plated plans for the executives. Don't think that means your salary goes up though - and a lot more is going to go out in taxes from that check to pay for all those new fully employed "uninsured" that will need it.

Funny thing is insurance companies will lobby against it, but probably every other company will jump at the idea - a nice boost to profits.

[Martin Hash]

Britain, which has had NHS since after WWII, still has 40% of its population using private insurance, usually through their employer, because wealthy people like to feel like they're getting special treatment.

Medicare is going to need to be paid for out of the General Fund. Payroll taxes are regressive.

[The Conservative]

You know, I don't know why they don't just work with the insurance companies, create a National Health Care Pool for each entity so if you get it in NH, you can use in CA without worry... Then offer one plan only per entity.... make sure it covers pre-existing conditions as a requirement, and most health insurance claims as expected by healthcare today...

The people then choose one of them, as more people get on these plans they will ultimately get cheaper. Make these plans offered to companies, or through these connectors. The health insurance will follow you as long as you stay with them if you lose your job and can no longer afford it, you still have the insurance, but you are put into a reduced payment group, sort of like how gas and electricity does, depending on your new income you either pay a reduced amount, or none till you get a new job.

Once you get a new job the company reports the employment and your insurance goes back to what it was before the layoff, or whatever.

Why do people make this so difficult?

[Speaker to Animals]

You bet. Trump said his Health Plan was going to cover more people and be "amazing." Cuck.

p.s. The only way universal healthcare can cover more people is if anyone not signed up is automatically on Medicare.
p.p.s. I outlined a bunch of ways healthcare can be made cheaper.

It's so obvious what needs to happen, and yet so few people are saying it. We are still somewhat stuck in that old paradigm.

Putting the uninsured on Medicare is about the only feasible solution that works that I can think of.

So putting everyone on medicare from birth. Because as soon as companies figure out they don't need to offer those pesky healthcare plans to employees guaranteed it'll stop - except maybe some gold plated plans for the executives. Don't think that means your salary goes up though - and a lot more is going to go out in taxes from that check to pay for all those new fully employed "uninsured" that will need it.

Funny thing is insurance companies will lobby against it, but probably every other company will jump at the idea - a nice boost to profits.

Why should businesses have to pay for our health care? Do you ever stop and think about the effect all these corporate taxes and government mandates on employers has on our economy?

We can figure out how to fund these things from our own payroll taxes. We don't need to stick it to the man to get these things funded because, eventually, the man is going to shut down the facilities and open up shop in another country.

[Martin Hash]

To restate the obvious:
Health "insurance" is NOT insurance. Insurance is a rare event everybody pays a small amount to cover, but EVERYONE needs healthcare.

[brewster]

Why should businesses have to pay for our health care? Do you ever stop and think about the effect all these corporate taxes and government mandates on employers has on our economy?

We can figure out how to fund these things from our own payroll taxes. We don't need to stick it to the man to get these things funded because, eventually, the man is going to shut down the facilities and open up shop in another country.

It really makes no difference whether the money is paid as a business tax or a payroll tax, it's coming from the same source of productivity. It's like the fiction that an employer pays half the SS tax. It's just payroll getting diverted before it's on the employees account.

To restate the obvious:
Health "insurance" is NOT insurance. Insurance is a rare event everybody pays a small amount to cover, but EVERYONE needs healthcare.

That can't be right, it's FREEDOM to have no insurance and freeload on the system when you're in need of treatment.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It really makes no difference whether the money is paid as a business tax or a payroll tax, it's coming from the same source of productivity. It's like the fiction that an employer pays half the SS tax. It's just payroll getting diverted before it's on the employees account.

To restate the obvious:
Health "insurance" is NOT insurance. Insurance is a rare event everybody pays a small amount to cover, but EVERYONE needs healthcare.

That can't be right, it's FREEDOM to have no insurance and freeload on the system when you're in need of treatment.

You're a hero.

[Speaker to Animals]

LMFAO

It definitely makes a difference. Businesses don't care how the government taxes their employee's income. Businesses care about how they get taxed and how they get forced to pay for shit that really has nothing to do with their business. That drives them out.

Remove the mandates for them to purchase health care, remove the double taxation that is corporate taxes, and you give them quite a lot of reasons to stick around the US.

[Okeefenokee]

How is that even in question? Offshoring 101 material.