THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Okeefenokee]

Yeah Dude, it’s totally fine see, we just borrow, I dunno, 20 trillion bucks, or something ridiculous, and pay interest on it but that’s cool cause we can hide the bill in all this other shit, and nobody cares because fuck it, amirite?

You know this bolsters my position, right? Your empty proclamation that you're in this too because you pay taxes is out the window, because there haven't been any taxes to fund the wars.

So, because there is no specific "war tax", GCF's taxes doesn't really fund the US military? Does this mean that because there's no specific "Public Education SJW Tax" you're tax dollars don't really go to fund SJW indoctrination by SJW professors in publicly funded universities?

I'll give you another chance to go back and read.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a goofy argument. Soldiers pay taxes too.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's a goofy argument. Soldiers pay taxes too.

Yes they do, but that's not the point. Again, his original statement:

No, it's definitely you. You're bragging about being exempt from any costs whatsoever of endless war, then you get indignant when your free-riding is pointed out.

I fucking paid for that shit. The fact that 1% of our population in the military also pays taxes is pretty irrelevant - especially when they get lifetime medical care, free college, and other assorted bennies for doing the job they signed up to do.

[K@th]

So the military isn't funded by taxes? LMAO. I like GCF's money tree by the SoL. Can you build one of those at my house? I want free money.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a goofy argument. Soldiers pay taxes too.

Yes they do, but that's not the point. Again, his original statement:

No, it's definitely you. You're bragging about being exempt from any costs whatsoever of endless war, then you get indignant when your free-riding is pointed out.

I fucking paid for that shit. The fact that 1% of our population in the military also pays taxes is pretty irrelevant - especially when they get lifetime medical care, free college, and other assorted bennies for doing the job they signed up to do.

But you did not pay for it. Maybe your children will pay for it.

Democracy of any form does not really work where most voters risk nothing as a consequence of their votes. In the purest form, as soon as the electorate votes for war, they retrieve their kit from their homes and muster outside the walls. This is why all American men were required to muster in thhe militia. insomucj as we strayed from that, shit got a lot worse.

Every person who votes should be prepared to sacrifice.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You know this bolsters my position, right? Your empty proclamation that you're in this too because you pay taxes is out the window, because there haven't been any taxes to fund the wars.

So, because there is no specific "war tax", GCF's taxes doesn't really fund the US military? Does this mean that because there's no specific "Public Education SJW Tax" you're tax dollars don't really go to fund SJW indoctrination by SJW professors in publicly funded universities?

I'll give you another chance to go back and read.

Okee. For all the time you spend throwing beer cans at me about 'being wrong' or 'not knowing what I'm talking about', you seem to be doing a fine job of it yourself, in this thread.

There will never be another 'war tax'. This is exactly why we left the gold standard, and went to free-floating magical money from nowhere.

Instead of demanding actual money from every citizen, the government now takes it via inflation. They just print up more dollars, and you, me, and everybody else loses their spending power. This is how we've funded the most insanely expensive military in history, along with all of our other social programs.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's a goofy argument. Soldiers pay taxes too.

Yes they do, but that's not the point. Again, his original statement:

No, it's definitely you. You're bragging about being exempt from any costs whatsoever of endless war, then you get indignant when your free-riding is pointed out.

I fucking paid for that shit. The fact that 1% of our population in the military also pays taxes is pretty irrelevant - especially when they get lifetime medical care, free college, and other assorted bennies for doing the job they signed up to do.

But you did not pay for it. Maybe your children will pay for it.

I'm paying for it every time I pick up a $3 gallon of gas, a $3 loaf of bread, or buy a car that costs half as much as a house.
Inflation is fucking you every single day, because we're paying for it with magic money. And THEN we can pay the actual tab at some hypothetical point, on top of that.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yes they do, but that's not the point. Again, his original statement:



I fucking paid for that shit. The fact that 1% of our population in the military also pays taxes is pretty irrelevant - especially when they get lifetime medical care, free college, and other assorted bennies for doing the job they signed up to do.

But you did not pay for it. Maybe your children will pay for it.

I'm paying for it every time I pick up a $3 gallon of gas, a $3 loaf of bread, or buy a car that costs half as much as a house.
Inflation is fucking you every single day, because we're paying for it with magic money. And THEN we can pay the actual tab at some hypothetical point, on top of that.

That's not paying for it. You should have to be willing to make real sacrifice in exchange for your vote.

American men used to be required to muster. All of us would be in the militia, required by law, and we all would have to make sacrifices if we decide to go to war.

Otherwise, most have zero incentive to weed out the Bushes and Obamas -- and that's exactly what happened. We have endless war precisely because you pay nothing, have no skin in the game, and have never experienced a real incentive to stop it.

[SuburbanFarmer]

But you did not pay for it. Maybe your children will pay for it.

I'm paying for it every time I pick up a $3 gallon of gas, a $3 loaf of bread, or buy a car that costs half as much as a house.
Inflation is fucking you every single day, because we're paying for it with magic money. And THEN we can pay the actual tab at some hypothetical point, on top of that.

That's not paying for it. You should have to be willing to make real sacrifice in exchange for your vote.

American men used to be required to muster. All of us would be in the militia, required by law, and we all would have to make sacrifices if we decide to go to war.

Otherwise, most have zero incentive to weed out the Bushes and Obamas -- and that's exactly what happened. We have endless war precisely because you pay nothing, have no skin in the game, and have never experienced a real incentive to stop it.

if you want to go back to Colonial Government, and muster 100,000,000 men every weekend, you’re going to have a tough time.

Whatever you feelz about our sacrifice is irrelevant. We have truly mortgaged the future, to pay for Infinity War. We are fucked sideways, and, thanks to a complete lack of financial education, very few even realize it. They’ll simply take to the streets and scream, when it all comes apart.

Obviously, things would be more moderated if it was out in the open, but it isn’t. And I don’t see a way to change that.

EDIT: and regarding my “willingness to sacrifice”, I’d be fully willing to help defend America, if it were ever in danger of being attacked. It isn’t, and won’t be in my lifetime.

[Speaker to Animals]

To wit: if every person like you had to risk leaving their jobs and families to muster whenever the government decided to make war, politicians would arise to capitalize on your angst and animosity for war-mongering leaders.

Nothing like that happens because there exists no demand for it. There exists no demand because you really do not pay the costs of war. It's bread and circus.

Politics is a kind of market too. You need demand for an issue in order to realize a legitimate candidate who runs on that issue. Demand in politics requires an interest, which in this case implies a real cost.