THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:46 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Non-sequitor.

"Hang all the gays" sounds like a fundamentalist to me. Not likely a mainstream Christian view, unless things have changed pretty radically in the last few days.
The difference is that in Christian America today hanging someone for merely being gay is a crime, and happens so seldom the last one I can think of is 25 years old. In Muslim controlled land being gay is a crime and punishable in varying degrees up to death as a standard practice.
Then, it's almost as if the nation in question matters more than the most-practiced-religion there... :think:
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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:49 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:I most certainly did not.
The hell you didn't,
GrumpyCatFace wrote:I'm just pointing out that there's literally no distinction between a fundamentalist Christian, Muslim, Jew, or Hindu.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:51 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Fundamentalism entered Christianity from contact with Islam. Similar to iconoclasm. You just still live in a time where that heresy yet has some life left to it, and in one of it's principal nations to boot. Yet would you say the same thing about iconoclasm?

Christianity is not really compatible with fundamentalism. A pretty large portion of the corpus of books that constitute our sacred scripture were never meant to be read literally. The same is true of every major religion I know about -- except Islam.
Valid thesis, I suppose, if you choose to ignore all of Hebrew history leading up to the establishment of Christianity. Those were some ruthless motherfuckers. Stoning uncovered women and shellfish-eaters on sight.

No, fundamentalism has existed as long as organized religion, from the Carthaginians burning babies to Aztec blood sacrifice. Depending on the mood of the times, it’s either death, or a slap on the wrist for infraction.

30 “Hail Marys” for this generation could be ritual rape and slaughter for the next.

I don't think you understand what fundamentalism means.
Don't you dare post a link to a religious definition of anything, again. That is the ultimate hackery.
fun·da·men·tal·ism
ˌfəndəˈmen(t)lˌizəm/
noun
noun: fundamentalism

a form of a religion, especially Islam or Protestant Christianity, that upholds belief in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture.
strict adherence to the basic principles of any subject or discipline.
Christian fundamentalism seems to be a necessary consequence of the Protestant heresy since it provides some basis for authority. The only way a concept like Sola Scriptura makes any practical sense is if interpreting scripture were like reading a newspaper article (little to no disagreement about what it means). So you have to reduce the books in the Bible to just literal truth even if they were NEVER interpreted as such before the 19th century.
See: Council of Nice, Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, on.. and on... and on...
The idea of it had to have come from knowledge of Islam which is THE fundamentalist religion. Islamic scripture is just a set of religious, social, legal, and political instructions to be taken literally. I don't know of any other religion quite like that.
I just pointed out 2 other examples, in the post that you're responding to.
The thing is, even Islam requires authority. That's what clerics do. Fundamentalist churches on the side of the highway have some guy reading the Bible and telling you what's what too. The foundation of the entire heresy doesn't really work out. That's why the number of Protestant denominations truly is equal to the number of Protestants.
Thus, the inherent problem with "Organized" religion.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:52 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:I most certainly did not.
The hell you didn't,
GrumpyCatFace wrote:I'm just pointing out that there's literally no distinction between a fundamentalist Christian, Muslim, Jew, or Hindu.
You're not going to make it far in college, with that reading comprehension level.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:54 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Fundamentalism entered Christianity from contact with Islam. Similar to iconoclasm. You just still live in a time where that heresy yet has some life left to it, and in one of it's principal nations to boot. Yet would you say the same thing about iconoclasm?

Christianity is not really compatible with fundamentalism. A pretty large portion of the corpus of books that constitute our sacred scripture were never meant to be read literally. The same is true of every major religion I know about -- except Islam.
Valid thesis, I suppose, if you choose to ignore all of Hebrew history leading up to the establishment of Christianity. Those were some ruthless motherfuckers. Stoning uncovered women and shellfish-eaters on sight.

No, fundamentalism has existed as long as organized religion, from the Carthaginians burning babies to Aztec blood sacrifice. Depending on the mood of the times, it’s either death, or a slap on the wrist for infraction.

30 “Hail Marys” for this generation could be ritual rape and slaughter for the next.
It can be. Or it can be quite flexible. Requires a little nuance and an open mind on what was going on contextually in history. Not that that's ever stopped atheists applying there dogma wherever they see stupid people praying to a power higher than their own asshole. One red pill I could offer is in fact the Inquisition that atheists love to chirp on about. Not a lot of people are very aware of the context of what was happening, after Christindom was reestablished in Spain. Taken back as it were from the Jews that kind of held the peace for the Muslim invaders. Well a lot of them tried to "convert," as it were. Let's just say tempers were running a little hot about their role in the dispossession of their people to foreign invaders.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:54 pm

There existed no such thing as literal interpretation of all the scripture in the Bible until the 19th century.

Do you think we believed Jonah literally lived in a whale for three days or do you think it was a story that foreshadowed the Resurrection?

It's not even possible to take the scripture in Genesis literally because the book was composed from three different sources and the sources don't all agree.

Seriously, fuck off with your low-brow ignorant attempt to paint all of Christianity by the antics of some roadside redneck preacher man. Get out of here with that.

It would be like claiming we all believe in Arianism too.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:57 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:There existed no such thing as literal interpretation of all the scripture in the Bible until the 19th century.

Do you think we believed Jonah literally lived in a whale for three days or do you think it was a story that foreshadowed the Resurrection?
Yes.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:59 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:There existed no such thing as literal interpretation of all the scripture in the Bible until the 19th century.

Do you think we believed Jonah literally lived in a whale for three days or do you think it was a story that foreshadowed the Resurrection?
Yes.
Atheists also believe that humans have no soul and we are electrically charged sacks of meat with no purpose and end. Who looks dumb now?

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:02 pm

Nukedog wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:There existed no such thing as literal interpretation of all the scripture in the Bible until the 19th century.

Do you think we believed Jonah literally lived in a whale for three days or do you think it was a story that foreshadowed the Resurrection?
Yes.
Atheists also believe that humans have no soul and we are electrically charged sacks of meat with no purpose and end. Who looks dumb now?

Check m8
:lol: Well, based on all available evidence, that is the more likely option...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:03 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:There existed no such thing as literal interpretation of all the scripture in the Bible until the 19th century.

Do you think we believed Jonah literally lived in a whale for three days or do you think it was a story that foreshadowed the Resurrection?
Yes.
Yeah man, /bonghit That story Jesus told about the master and his slaves. True story. Jesus owned slaves. He didn't come right out and say it was him, but we know who he was talking about.
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