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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:40 pm

John Dean said; "If Fox News had been around during Watergate, Nixon probably would have survived"
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:54 pm

I saw that. It's possible, but I'm not sure. America was a very different place in 1973.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:57 pm

C-Mag wrote:I saw that. It's possible, but I'm not sure. America was a very different place in 1973.
Because there was no Fox News, if there was Fox News in 1973, would have been a different America in 1973 than it was in 1973.

You don't think there were frothing at the mouth right wingers in 1973? More then than there are now, they just couldn't get on TV.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:05 pm

You know I can't even get FOX news here? I can only get CNN, that's how dangerous it is to the liberals, they wont even let it on TV here. They don't just loathe it, they fear it.
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:31 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:You know I can't even get FOX news here? I can only get CNN, that's how dangerous it is to the liberals, they wont even let it on TV here. They don't just loathe it, they fear it.
It's a nice option. FOX isn't even close to the OMG Right Wingers CNN laments. I know OMG Right Wingers and they make Hannity look like Lenin.

We have end of the Fairness Act to thank for FOX, to thank for Rush Limbaugh and as I've told the man, Dan Carlin. Repealing the fairness doctrine is what made all that possible. Dan always pined away about how nice it would be if it were the old days. But Hardcore History wouldn't exist under that system, he'd be anchored to a major network and big business.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:33 pm

I'm not really that interested in Fox meself, I find it to be kinda stoopid, but it does sway the rubes to the right, Fox News has had a massive effect on American politics, doesn't even have to be that hardcore to shift the whole terrain to the right.

The key is to just rile the rubes up and then sic them on the leftist sacred cows, anyway you can, fight dirty, that's what Fox is good for,
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:41 pm

All American press is geared for the sound bite and shouting match debate. I appreciate FOX just because it gives a different slant than the Vintage Three. People like 'em, FOX kills in the ratings.

There are so many Myths around the Vintage Three. Like Cronkite and Rather. Those guys were pushing agendas back in the day, you just didn't know because the 3 networks pretty much sent the same message.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:43 pm

The shouting match debate favours the right, that's why America has been going to the right ever since the whole thing turned into a shouting match, at this point, Ronald Reagan would be a left winger, that's how far the center has moved right, since cable news became king.

Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush sr, those are all liberals by American standards now, Fox News would call them commie sympathizers.
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:48 pm

The News of Today doesn't take a Right Wing slant Historically speaking. The US has moved so far down the SJW path it would be unfathomable a generation ago.

Imagine Bill Clinton in 1992 taking office and say he not only wanted Gays serving in the military he was opening it up to cross dressers too. It could have never happened back then, now you've got FOX defending gays in the military.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:50 pm

C-Mag wrote:The News of Today doesn't take a Right Wing slant Historically speaking. The US has moved so far down the SJW path it would be unfathomable a generation ago.

Imagine Bill Clinton in 1992 taking office and say he not only wanted Gays serving in the military he was opening it up to cross dressers too. It could have never happened back then, now you've got FOX defending gays in the military.
That's not the nation, the SJW's are just a noisy minority, enabled by academics, the media, and silicon valley, and they're not winning the center, Sanders lost to Clinton, Clinton lost to Trump, the SJW's are actually bringing the left down.
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