THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:28 pm

Dershowitz made some good points here.



Not a big fan of the guy after what he did to my university, but he does make some good points a lot of the time.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:28 pm

TheReal_ND wrote: Smitty give me the red pill on this
I'm with the Israelis against the "whole world" 100%, just like I'm with Canada against the "whole world" 100%, I'm a 100% Westphalian Sovereignist till I die, fully prepared to kill and die to defend it as neccesary, including against the United Nations General Assembly as neccesary.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:29 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
MiG-29 AOA limit; 29 degrees. F-35 AOA limit; 50 degrees, see how that works? No, you don't because you don't even know what AOA limit means...
Arrival On Aperture?
Maximum controllable Angle of Attack without stall.

Thrust vector permits control post stall, nice for airshows, but it's totally useless in combat, because you've bled your energy beyond zero and are in fact falling like a leaf, a sitting duck as you spiral down, a controlled spiral towards the ground, but a spiral towards the ground none the less.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:34 pm

It would be easier if they just finished this Reconquista. Get it over with. Dragging it out makes it worse.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:38 pm

lol at lazy tech
The more serious issue, though, is that we don’t know how effective stealth technology will be against a high-tech opponent. An F-35 stealth fighter that gets in a short-range duel with a Flanker-E will be in big trouble—but how good a chance does the faster, more-maneuverable Russian fighter have of detecting that F-35 and getting close to it in the first place?

As the U.S. Air Force would have it, stealth fighters will be able to unleash a hail of missiles up to one hundred miles away without the enemy having any way to return fire until they close to a (short) distance, where visual and IR scanning come into play. Proponents of the Russian fighter argue that it will be able to rely upon ground-based low-bandwidth radars, and on-board IRST sensors and PESA radar, to detect stealth planes. Keep in mind, however, that the former two technologies are imprecise and can’t be used to target weapons in most cases.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/why-ru ... 995?page=2

Give me a fighter jet with a dick between it's legs any day. RUSSIA STRONK AMERICA WEAK

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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:40 pm

Well I'm not handing my land back to the Hurons without a fight, and the "Palestinians" were never even the sovereigns, it was Ottoman Turkey, than it was Britain, now it is Israel as far as they can clear it, the British took it from the Turks, the Israelis took it from the British, just as assuredly as the British took Canada from the French... the "Palestinians" never took it; too bad, so sad.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:44 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:lol at lazy tech
The more serious issue, though, is that we don’t know how effective stealth technology will be against a high-tech opponent. An F-35 stealth fighter that gets in a short-range duel with a Flanker-E will be in big trouble—but how good a chance does the faster, more-maneuverable Russian fighter have of detecting that F-35 and getting close to it in the first place?

As the U.S. Air Force would have it, stealth fighters will be able to unleash a hail of missiles up to one hundred miles away without the enemy having any way to return fire until they close to a (short) distance, where visual and IR scanning come into play. Proponents of the Russian fighter argue that it will be able to rely upon ground-based low-bandwidth radars, and on-board IRST sensors and PESA radar, to detect stealth planes. Keep in mind, however, that the former two technologies are imprecise and can’t be used to target weapons in most cases.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/why-ru ... 995?page=2

Give me a fighter jet with a dick between it's legs any day. RUSSIA STRONK AMERICA WEAK

Just more concern troll Cucks, electronically scanned arrays are no more effecitive against VLO than mechanically scanned arrays, PESA is still radar, nothing about it makes it able to defeat VLO, that's made up bullshit which has been propagated by media fops who have no idea what they're talking about... "Electronically Scanned!!!" blah-blah-blah, they don't even know what that means, they just read it on the internetz, churned up fallaciously by other concern trolls reading it on the internetz churned up fallaciouslly by other concern trolls, wash, rinse, repeat ad nauseum...

...and in terms of IRST, how does the Russian know where to point his IRST to find the F-35 when he is totally reliant on the AWACS to tell him where to look, and the AWACS can't see the F-35s?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:45 pm

Yeah I support Israel expanding their borders even further perhaps a hundred fold further. I don't really care about the ancient squabbles over there. Would tacitly back them in a war but unfortunately they seem to be making us back them wether we like it or not at times.

But seriously fuck the UN. I mean if you ever thought the UN was anything other than an America hegemonic interest overrun by rent seeking bureaucrats then dispel that myth from your head. We could dismantle it over night and the world would still turn despite all the kvetching.
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TheReal_ND wrote:lol at lazy tech
The more serious issue, though, is that we don’t know how effective stealth technology will be against a high-tech opponent. An F-35 stealth fighter that gets in a short-range duel with a Flanker-E will be in big trouble—but how good a chance does the faster, more-maneuverable Russian fighter have of detecting that F-35 and getting close to it in the first place?

As the U.S. Air Force would have it, stealth fighters will be able to unleash a hail of missiles up to one hundred miles away without the enemy having any way to return fire until they close to a (short) distance, where visual and IR scanning come into play. Proponents of the Russian fighter argue that it will be able to rely upon ground-based low-bandwidth radars, and on-board IRST sensors and PESA radar, to detect stealth planes. Keep in mind, however, that the former two technologies are imprecise and can’t be used to target weapons in most cases.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/why-ru ... 995?page=2

Give me a fighter jet with a dick between it's legs any day. RUSSIA STRONK AMERICA WEAK

Just more concern troll Cucks, electronically scanned arrays are no more effecitive against VLO than mechanically scanned arrays, PESA is still radar, nothing about it makes it able to defeat VLO, that's made up bullshit which has been propagated by media fops who have no idea what they're talking about...

...and in terms of IRST, how does the Russian know where to point his IRST to find the F-35 when he is totally reliant on the AWACS to tell him where to look, and the AWACS can't see the F-35s?
Idk dude. Like let's fucking find out.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:50 pm

TheReal_ND wrote: Idk dude. Like let's fucking find out.
Once you understand the fundamentals inside and out, you understand how and why it works, to add the cherry on top, the pilots have confirmed that it works by having testing it for years now at Red Flag.

Red Flag is not real world, Red Flag is actually way tougher than real world, the OPFOR at Red Flag being way more capable than the actual Russians and Chinese.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:01 pm

I'm no fan of the UN or surrendering sovereignty to it, I just don't like to see the US sticking its neck out to defend Israel. The UN can slap down their settlements for all I care, I'm America, and Israel ain't America. If it were up to me I'd halt the $3b and change of foreign aid every year too, if they want to occupy the Palestinians go right ahead, but they're going to do it on their own dime.