THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Okeefenokee]

We don’t put power lines underground for a whole host of reasons. Not least of which is the electrocution hazard.

It's 100% my fault that the power lines in this country are mostly above ground. Okee said so and he's an authority.

I didn't say 100%. But ultimately, who's fault is it? Are we gonna blame the power lines for falling down when we failed to bury them in the first place? Sure, you can blame your local leaders for making the call, but who elects them? Who failed to get them to do the smart thing and bury the lines? Does sitting around telling each other, "not my job, not my problem," fix anything?

You can't say it can't be done, cause plenty of other places have done it. I would think a hurricane prone area would place a priority on hardening the infrastructure against hurricanes.

Think about it this way, you know how we don't have salt trucks or snow plows in the south because it doesn't snow often enough for it to be worth the cost of maintaining them? That's a decision that was made, and when our streets are closed off once every two or three years for half a day, we accept that we are responsible for that. We did a cost-benefit analysis, and went with snow day over snow plow.

I realize there's probably a damn state lineman's union making sure the lines stay nailed to the tops of the same damn poles they were nailed to a hundred thirty years ago. So you know what we have to do. We might end up with ankle bracelets.

[SuburbanFarmer]

We don’t put power lines underground for a whole host of reasons. Not least of which is the electrocution hazard.

It's 100% my fault that the power lines in this country are mostly above ground. Okee said so and he's an authority.

I didn't say 100%. But ultimately, who's fault is it? Are we gonna blame the power lines for falling down when we failed to bury them in the first place? Sure, you can blame your local leaders for making the call, but who elects them? Who failed to get them to do the smart thing and bury the lines? Does sitting around telling each other, "not my job, not my problem," fix anything?

You can't say it can't be done, cause plenty of other places have done it. I would think a hurricane prone area would place a priority on hardening the infrastructure against hurricanes.

Think about it this way, you know how we don't have salt trucks or snow plows in the south because it doesn't snow often enough for it to be worth the cost of maintaining them? That's a decision that was made, and when our streets are closed off once every two or three years for half a day, we accept that we are responsible for that. We did a cost-benefit analysis, and went with snow day over snow plow.

I realize there's probably a damn state lineman's union making sure the lines stay nailed to the tops of the same damn poles they were nailed to a hundred thirty years ago. So you know what we have to do. We might end up with ankle bracelets.

Well I do know that they can’t do it in Florida because the water table is about a foot down in most areas. The expense would be mind-boggling, and anyone could be electrocuted, just digging up a garden.

Then there’s the fact that a whole lot of those lines exist because they don’t need to buy the land that they cross over. If you want digging rights to roughly a million miles of private property, you might as well just declare it mandatory, and forget paying for it. The backlash would be incredible.

[Okeefenokee]

anyone could be electrocuted, just digging up a garden.

That's not how it works.

[Kazmyr]

[Okeefenokee]

Underground power and data lines,



Just be quiet grumps.

The placement of power lines underground typically is driven by the lack of available right of way or aesthetics. Placing lines underground in heavily populated, urban areas is a decision readily justified to regulatory agencies. Typically, construction costs for those lines are approved by regulatory agencies to be added to the utilities' rate bases; however, for lines that are requested to be installed underground by a community concerned about the aesthetic, it is only just to have the community absorb a portion if not the full amount of the differential costs. This concept has been employed by several Florida utilities that needed to construct transmission lines through established, residential communities. In at least two cases, reasonable agreements were reached by the utility and government agency for sharing the differential costs of placing the transmission lines underground.
The Answer
"They can be, but it's expensive," is the proverbial answer concerning underground power delivery, but the time is quickly approaching when utility customers and government officials will demand an answer that provides a more in-depth, independent look at how much more expensive underground power delivery is compared with overhead power delivery. Changes will be precipitated by power outages associated with natural disasters, citizens who don't want their homes ­devalued by nearby overhead lines, and competitive economic forces that drive utilities to consider placing power lines underground.

[Speaker to Animals]

I have to say, I really hope the democrats don't deliver the killing blow and start calling for massive gun control leading into the Midterms. The republicans will lose control of Congress if they do that. I don't know how we would recover. They are too stupid to figure it out and run on a huge gun control platform. They will never defeat us like that.

[ssu]

I have to say, I really hope the democrats don't deliver the killing blow and start calling for massive gun control leading into the Midterms. The republicans will lose control of Congress if they do that. I don't know how we would recover. They are too stupid to figure it out and run on a huge gun control platform. They will never defeat us like that.

What will be the topics at the Midterms can still change a lot.

The problem is that when you push gun control only when there's a mass shooting (that is widely reported in the media), this won't fly in the midterms if there is no new mass shooting before that. People don't remember what happened last year. You never get people advocating gun control (or the media getting interested in the purposals) when there hasn't been a mass shooting.

[ssu]

Still waiting when Tillerson will be fired.

After all, how long can someone in the Trump administration survive By calling Trump a "Fucking Moron" and not deny it?

(Yet, I agree that only a fucking moron compares the war in Afghanistan to refurbishing a New York restaurant.)

Let's see if anybody here champions then that it's a move to "drain the swamp".

[SuburbanFarmer]

Still waiting when Tillerson will be fired.

After all, how long can someone in the Trump administration survive By calling Trump a "Fucking Moron" and not deny it?

(Yet, I agree that only a fucking moron compares the war in Afghanistan to refurbishing a New York restaurant.)

Let's see if anybody here champions then that it's a move to "drain the swamp".

We all know he's a fucking moron. Well, those of us that aren't morons, anyway.

Whether he said it or not, Tillerson will get fired soon, just for the rumor.

[Kazmyr]

So MSM is freaking-the-fuck-out over Trump's "calm before the storm" quip.

Donald Trump is treating a potential war like a reality show cliffhanger

Trump: "You guys know what this represents? Maybe it's the calm before the storm."

Reporter: "What's the storm?"

Trump: "It could be ... the calm, the calm before the storm."

Reporter: "Iran? ISIS? What storm, Mr. President?"

Trump: "We have the world's great military people in this room, I will tell you that. And uh, we're gonna have a great evening, thank you all for coming."

Reporter: "What storm, Mr. President?"

Trump: "You'll find out."

What. The. Hell. Is. Happening.

Shall we start taking bets on what he meant by that?

Initial reaction? Nothing; He wants to fuck with the media.