THE ERA OF TRUMP

[DBTrek]

The structure depends more on geopolitics and military balance than ideology. Your biggest defence have been the two big wet ones: The Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean. And also that neither Canada, Mexico or any other nation on your Continent has been some badass militant Germany.

70 million militant Canucks organized as the Third Reich would be a different thing, you know. Then you would have conscription.

Check the link.
It was ALL about ideology:

For most Americans after the Revolution, a standing army was one of the most dangerous threats to liberty. In thinking about the potential dangers of a standing army, the Founding generation had before them the precedents of Rome and England. In the first case, Julius Caesar marched his provincial army into Rome, overthrowing the power of the Senate, destroying the republic, and laying the foundation of empire. In the second, Cromwell used the army to abolish Parliament and to rule as dictator. In addition, in the period leading up to the Revolution, the British Crown had forced the American colonists to quarter and otherwise support its troops, which the colonists saw as nothing more than an army of occupation. Under British practice, the king was not only the commander in chief; it was he who raised the armed forces. The Framers were determined not to lodge the power of raising an army with the executive.

[Smitty-48]

70 million militant Canucks organized as the Third Reich would be a different thing, you know. Then you would have conscription.

They tried to have conscription to take Canada, but half the country was in revolt about it, James Madison had to whip them across the river to the Heights at Queenston, most of the Americans in New England were on our side, acting as a fifth column against Washington, when they tried to draft Americans to attack their neighbours in Canada, the pony bucked the rider and they refused.

[ssu]

The structure depends more on geopolitics and military balance than ideology. Your biggest defence have been the two big wet ones: The Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean. And also that neither Canada, Mexico or any other nation on your Continent has been some badass militant Germany.

70 million militant Canucks organized as the Third Reich would be a different thing, you know. Then you would have conscription.

Check the link.
It was ALL about ideology:

For most Americans after the Revolution, a standing army was one of the most dangerous threats to liberty. In thinking about the potential dangers of a standing army, the Founding generation had before them the precedents of Rome and England. In the first case, Julius Caesar marched his provincial army into Rome, overthrowing the power of the Senate, destroying the republic, and laying the foundation of empire. In the second, Cromwell used the army to abolish Parliament and to rule as dictator. In addition, in the period leading up to the Revolution, the British Crown had forced the American colonists to quarter and otherwise support its troops, which the colonists saw as nothing more than an army of occupation. Under British practice, the king was not only the commander in chief; it was he who raised the armed forces. The Framers were determined not to lodge the power of raising an army with the executive.

If you would have let's say Imperial Germany in the Place of Canada, you wouldn't have thought that a standing army is more dangerous than the goddam Germans. It would have been the goddam Germans as the existential threat. They would have thought "Ach, the Engländers left, let's pick up this land here and it's natural resources!" And your history proves very well my point. Once there was a Soviet Union, you had conscription. Period. No problem at all with that. All your problems of this vast overreach happens because America is so safe.

We would feel safe there too. If somehow Russia would be replaced by a modern Canada and we would wake up with +1000 kilometers of border with Smittyland, why on Earth would we need conscription? They (the Canadians) wouldn't invade us just like Norway, Estonia or Sweden won't attack us either. We could then have the miniatyre army for sending Peacekeepers to somewhere in order that we could say that we participate in the International community.

[Smitty-48]

We're invading them by osmosis, they have no defence against it, America is being Canadianized by stealth, slowly but surely, we are making them into a giant version of us, like a virus in their ideological bloodstream, and all their military firepower, is totally impotent to stop us.

We haven't taken Fly Over Country, but the Blue States, they've been Canadianized already for all intents and purposes.

[DBTrek]

If you would have let's say Imperial Germany in the Place of Canada, you wouldn't have thought that a standing army is more dangerous than the goddam Germans. It would have been the goddam Germans as the existential threat. They would have thought "Ach, the Engländers left, let's pick up this land here and it's natural resources!" And your history proves very well my point. Once there was a Soviet Union, you had conscription. Period. No problem at all with that. All your problems of this vast overreach happens because America is so safe.

Well . . . maybe.

Let's not forget we had to kick an Army out of here simply to establish our nation in the first place.
An Army that could (and did) return.

So it's not like we were Canada or something - just a bunch of yokels safely tucked away behind friendly superpowers PLUS two oceans.

[Montegriffo]

LMFAO

Funny because true.

We could say that with 2/3 of the people here, so don't laugh too hard... you especially.

Don’t make fun of me. I have a laughter disorder, and paranoid delusions of grandeur.

[Smitty-48]

Well . . . maybe.

Let's not forget we had to kick an Army out of here simply to establish our nation in the first place.
An Army that could (and did) return.

So it's not like we were Canada or something - just a bunch of yokels safely tucked away behind friendly superpowers PLUS two oceans.

Yeah, right, the friendly superpower which tried to invade us three times, the only reason you went friendly, is because we kicked your sorry asses out of here until you gave up and tried to make nice instead, which, OK, that did work, at that point we went friendly too, but only from the position of total military supremacy over your half assed rebel army of hayseed goobers and fenian bastards.

[Okeefenokee]

Kath, doesn't work anymore.

I'm remembering why I left. Let's not have facts get in the way of your feelings, right?

He just laid the facts on you, princess.

[Okeefenokee]

but Trump is the only one who is openly hostile towards his fellow citizens.

TDS folks. TDS.

[Okeefenokee]

I spent seven years in a North Vietnamese prison camp from which I escaped. Ten years later, the government asked me to go back there and look for more POWs being held illegally by the communists. I later launched a mission with some old buddies deep into the Vietnamese jungle to take on a rogue general holding Americans captive. Don't tell me what I haven't been through.

I saw him do it.