THE ERA OF TRUMP

[TheReal_ND]

The alt-right being only A PART of this Trump base the rest of your post can go straight in the trash.

YOURE ONLY ONE GUY

OK YOURE NOT BUT THEY ARENT ANYTHING

dunce

[StCapps]

Keep on pretending that people like you are the reason Trump won, it doesn't reflect reality, people who voted Obama in 2008 won Trump the presidency in 2016, get real. People who never voted didn't win Trump the election, and people who rarely vote didn't win him the election, nope he won over folks who had previously voted Democrat in key swing states not so long ago, and that won him the election. You want to inflate your sense of importance by thinking it was folks like you who got him elected, but that is only wishful thinking.

[TheReal_ND]

I'm not pretending anything I believe, any of the posters on /pol/, any of the listeners to the TRS syndication, any of the people posting on Red Ice, counter currents, Amren or any of the YouTube channels won Trump anything. I'm simply saying he won't win with DACA amnesty and no wall. What's so hard to believe about that? GCF thinks everyone is just stupid and you seem to think fracturing your base after a tight race is no big deal. Granted democucks suck really bad these days so who knows?

In fact I bet r_TD posters would probably rationalize it all away whatever Trump does or doesn't do. In fact they are the real useful idiots. Any form of dissent is immediately met with moderation. CivNats and Cernovich followers are pretty dumb though.

[StCapps]

Trump is going to try and get the wall from the Dems, and he'll give them DACA amnesty in return, that's the deal that Trump is angling for here. He's not just give them DACA for nothing, that's why he talked so tough on immigration, so the deal he eventually gets with the Dems, seems reasonable by comparison from their perspective considering his starting position. Trump doesn't have to give up that much because they previously thought that he wasn't going to give them anything, so they get anxious out of fear that he may change his mind back to crazytown and they'll come out of it empty handed.

Outrageous opening offer, then dial it back towards the center and get more than you would have from the left than if you started much closer to the center and tried to dial it to the right. That's the plan, and Trump's base won't abandon him because he gave up a little amnesty to get the wall they wanted so damn bad, that's just not a thing that is going to happen, because the Democrats aren't going to be an alternative to them, given their views on immigration.

[TheReal_ND]

Well what's the point of the wall if you grant DACA amnesty anyway? If chain migration is permitted, and it will be, these 800k (I don't believe it's only 800k the same way illegals have been at 11 million for years,) will triple into nearly three million. That's three million New Democrat voters. That's three million people that outbreed white males and females, the actual Trump base, that will dominate politics going forward forever. The wall is useless with DACA amnesty. It's pretty much over anyway and he will have fucked off his base wether they realize it or not.

[StCapps]

Well what's the point of the wall if you grant DACA amnesty anyway? If chain migration is permitted, and it will be, these 800k (I don't believe it's only 800k the same way illegals have been at 11 million for years,) will triple into nearly three million. That's three million New Democrat voters. That's three million people that outbreed white males and females, the actual Trump base, that will dominate politics going forward forever. The wall is useless with DACA amnesty. It's pretty much over anyway and he will fucked off his base regardless wether they realize it or not.

So win over more hispanic voters, like Bush did, problem solved, wall not useless. A little amnesty doesn't render the wall obsolete, that's ridiculous. Trump never planned to deport everyone who is an illegal immigrant, he mostly just talked about deporting illegals who have committed violent crimes, amnesty was always baked into the cake, to one degree or another, get real.

[TheReal_ND]

Yeah well you do what you do and I'll do what I do.

Muh "natural conservatives." How'd that work out Reagan?

[StCapps]

Yeah well you do what you do and I'll do what I do.

Muh "natural conservatives." How'd that work out Reagan?

Reagan was a two term president, so pretty good. Reagan was down with amnesty, so is Trump, you'll see.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Well what's the point of the wall if you grant DACA amnesty anyway? If chain migration is permitted, and it will be, these 800k (I don't believe it's only 800k the same way illegals have been at 11 million for years,) will triple into nearly three million. That's three million New Democrat voters. That's three million people that outbreed white males and females, the actual Trump base, that will dominate politics going forward forever. The wall is useless with DACA amnesty. It's pretty much over anyway and he will have fucked off his base wether they realize it or not.

The wall was useless anyway. You think a New York billionaire gives a personal shit about immigration? he’s doing it to get it out of the way, so he can do what he really wants - tax wipes and gimmes.

[TheReal_ND]

Yes I actually believe he has a nationalist streak and has had one since the 80's and genuinely considers illegal immigration detrimental.