Daniel Shaver shooting

[DBTrek]

I've laid out the court rulings.
The jury in this case ruled.
Case is over.

If Fife can't cope, that's his issue, not the world's.

[nmoore63]

That's not a safe place for them to take the suspect into custody, with a blind corner right there, getting him to move out of the way, so they can continue to cover the corner while he is being taken into custody, is tactically sound, and exactly what I would do too.

The fact that he appears to reach for it in the process, a second time, after being specifically warned not to, on pain of being shot, loudly, clearly, and in no uncertain terms, is a separate issue.

Sorry bro, this ain’t falluja. There is no hostage. There is no shots fired. There is no officer down.

Somebody said they saw someone with a gun. No crime even committed yet. No need to show such reckless risk of human life just to save time.

The cop ordered a hysterical person from no threat to potential threat because he sucks.

Neglect homicide.

Hysterical sniper in the bell tower reaches for it a second time after being clearly warned not to on pain of being shot; you get shot for that in Canada, never mind Fallujah.

You seem to think that someone was in danger when the dude was on the floor with his hands outstretched.

Who?

[Fife]

That's not a safe place for them to take the suspect into custody, with a blind corner right there, getting him to move out of the way, so they can continue to cover the corner while he is being taken into custody, is tactically sound, and exactly what I would do too.

The fact that he appears to reach for it in the process, a second time, after being specifically warned not to, on pain of being shot, loudly, clearly, and in no uncertain terms, is a separate issue.

Sorry bro, this ain’t falluja. There is no hostage. There is no shots fired. There is no officer down.

Somebody said they saw someone with a gun. No crime even committed yet. No need to show such reckless risk of human life just to save time.

The cop ordered a hysterical person from no threat to potential threat because he sucks.

Neglect homicide.

Hysterical sniper in the bell tower reaches for it a second time after being clearly warned not to on pain of being shot; you get shot for that in Canada, never mind Fallujah.

We have a new fallacy for the catalogue: Hysterical Sniper in the Bell Tower Fallacy.

Show me the hysterical sniper in this thread, Smits. Please, please don't make me post the same question 20 times. Just either show the hysterical sniper or admit there isn't one.

[Fife]

I've laid out the court rulings.
The jury in this case ruled.
Case is over.

If Fife can't cope, that's his issue, not the world's.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ


Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.

[Smitty-48]

He seem to think that someone was in danger when the dude was on the floor with his hands outstretched.

Who?

Dude, when you start pointing rifles into the streets from a hotel room window, you're a danger until proven otherwise, I mean, who the hell does that, except mad snipers in the bell tower?

[DBTrek]

Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.

[Fife]

Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.

Just say you won't answer and I'll consider halting triggering you. I'll accept your surrender at any time. The question I pose is not tricky or designed to do anything other than get an honest response to an honest question.

Meanwhile:

Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.

[DBTrek]

Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.

[Smitty-48]

You know, if it was a kid who did something like that, I could understand it, but an adult male, a father of kids, pointing what would appear to anyone to be a rifle, out of a hotel room window? I mean, ca'mon, that's Darwinian stupidity right there.

[Fife]

He seem to think that someone was in danger when the dude was on the floor with his hands outstretched.

Who?

Dude, when you start pointing rifles into the streets from a hotel room window, you're a danger until proven otherwise, I mean, who the hell does that, except mad snipers in the bell tower?

Agreed that "when you start pointing rifles into the streets from a hotel room window, you're a danger until proven otherwise."

Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.