Europe, the not boring thread

[Viktorthepirate]

Though I will concede that the people who had a hand in founding this country were vast majority white. I don't think it's really relevant to their personalities or culture.

Somehow make all Anglo Saxon people purple and it won't be their purpleness that made them dominate the world, it's their culture.

Unless of course you are advocating that white people have some kind of inherent genetic superiority....

It has everything to do with it.

Check out a book titled Troublesome Inheritance. Subtle differences in genetic behavior result in drastic differences in societies. The founding principles of this nation are not shared by other peoples. Hell, they are barely even shared outside the British Isles. There are reasons for this. Human beings are not blank slates that get programmed with arbitrary cultural operating systems. It simply does not work that way.

Ok, that's all I needed to hear from you to understand your feelings on the subject.

[Speaker to Animals]

Though I will concede that the people who had a hand in founding this country were vast majority white. I don't think it's really relevant to their personalities or culture.

Somehow make all Anglo Saxon people purple and it won't be their purpleness that made them dominate the world, it's their culture.

Unless of course you are advocating that white people have some kind of inherent genetic superiority....

It has everything to do with it.

Check out a book titled Troublesome Inheritance. Subtle differences in genetic behavior result in drastic differences in societies. The founding principles of this nation are not shared by other peoples. Hell, they are barely even shared outside the British Isles. There are reasons for this. Human beings are not blank slates that get programmed with arbitrary cultural operating systems. It simply does not work that way.

Ok, that's all I needed to hear from you to understand your feelings on the subject.

LOL, whatever.

[JohnDonne]

Though I will concede that the people who had a hand in founding this country were vast majority white. I don't think it's really relevant to their personalities or culture.

Somehow make all Anglo Saxon people purple and it won't be their purpleness that made them dominate the world, it's their culture.

Unless of course you are advocating that white people have some kind of inherent genetic superiority....

It has everything to do with it.

Check out a book titled Troublesome Inheritance. Subtle differences in genetic behavior result in drastic differences in societies. The founding principles of this nation are not shared by other peoples. Hell, they are barely even shared outside the British Isles. There are reasons for this. Human beings are not blank slates that get programmed with arbitrary cultural operating systems. It simply does not work that way.

Ok, that's all I needed to hear from you to understand your feelings on the subject.

I'll check out the book. Race is obviously real enough to create differences in skin color, is it really a stretch to claim it might create differences in intelligence? Could be interesting, could be nonsense, but why dismiss it out of hand?

[heydaralon]

It has everything to do with it.

Check out a book titled Troublesome Inheritance. Subtle differences in genetic behavior result in drastic differences in societies. The founding principles of this nation are not shared by other peoples. Hell, they are barely even shared outside the British Isles. There are reasons for this. Human beings are not blank slates that get programmed with arbitrary cultural operating systems. It simply does not work that way.

Ok, that's all I needed to hear from you to understand your feelings on the subject.

I'll check out the book. Race is obviously real enough to create differences in skin color, is it really a stretch to claim it might create differences in intelligence? Could be interesting, could be nonsense, but why dismiss it out of hand?

I think that one was written by Nicholas Wade. He wrote some other book on DNA and early man that Dan mentioned back in the day

[Speaker to Animals]

Ok, that's all I needed to hear from you to understand your feelings on the subject.

I'll check out the book. Race is obviously real enough to create differences in skin color, is it really a stretch to claim it might create differences in intelligence? Could be interesting, could be nonsense, but why dismiss it out of hand?

I think that one was written by Nicholas Wade. He wrote some other book on DNA and early man that Dan mentioned back in the day

Before the Dawn

Another book that altered my opinion on these matters.

You have to avoid the bullshit trap of shutting your brain down and assuming any talk about race is "racism". We were all brainwashed to do that. There is nothing racist about any of this. Human diversity is a wonderful thing. The fact is, it's the so-called multiculturalists who want to end diversity, not people like me. I want to preserve it. They are the ones that want all differences to be erased. At the core of it, they want for all people to be the same in every way.

[heydaralon]

I'll check out the book. Race is obviously real enough to create differences in skin color, is it really a stretch to claim it might create differences in intelligence? Could be interesting, could be nonsense, but why dismiss it out of hand?

I think that one was written by Nicholas Wade. He wrote some other book on DNA and early man that Dan mentioned back in the day

Before the Dawn

Another book that altered my opinion on these matters.

You have to avoid the bullshit trap of shutting your brain down and assuming any talk about race is "racism". We were all brainwashed to do that. There is nothing racist about any of this. Human diversity is a wonderful thing. The fact is, it's the so-called multiculturalists who want to end diversity, not people like me. I want to preserve it. They are the ones that want all differences to be erased. At the core of it, they want for all people to be the same in every way.

Any time a book comes out that has an even remotely deterministic or nature over nurture premise, it gets attacked by academics. Nature goes against a lot of what liberalism is about. When E O Wilson wrote Sociobiology, he got attacked by anthropologists left and right. Personally, I think Wilson has some interesting ideas about human behavior and human nature. Stephen Pinker wrote that Blank Slate book which kind of expanded on them. In my opinion, this tendency is why those free-will debates can get so ugly. People do not like being reduced down to biology or mechanical processes. I don't know enough about genes or neuroscience to weigh in, but I have a nagging suspicion that our minds and behavior are hugely determined by things that we have minimal control over.

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[KerningChameleon]

A little surprised that this didn't come up in the last week:

Theresa May signs '£1.5 billion' deal with the DUP to prop up her government

Theresa May has agreed a £1.5 billion deal with the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) in order to prop up her minority government.

The deal is a 'confidence and supply' arrangement, where the DUP will support the Conservative minority government and vote with it on the Queen's speech this week.

Part of the agreement is a financial package worth £1 billion over two years for Northern Ireland, along with an extra in £500 million of already committed funds being made available to the province.

In a statement Prime Minister Theresa May said I welcome this agreement which will enable us to work together in the interest of the whole United Kingdom, give us the certainty we require as we embark on our departure from the European Union, and help us build a stronger and fairer society at home."

Speaking in Downing Street, the DUP leader Arlene Foster that her party and the Tories were committed to "building prosperity for all."

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "this Tory-DUP deal is clearly not in the national interest but in May's party's interest to help her cling to power."

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Commenting on the deal, Corbyn said "Austerity has failed. Cuts to vital public services must be halted right across the UK, not just in Northern Ireland. Where is the money for the Tory-DUP deal coming from? And, will all parts of the UK receive the much needed additional funding that Northern Ireland will get as part of the deal?"

Apparently, the secret to the "magic money tree" is to have the Tories by the balls.

Can you imagine that sort of thing happening in the US? Some sort of situation where, I don't know, the Republicans lose their majority in the Senate.. But there's this third-party, let's call them "New Mexico Super Awesome Party" for sake of argument, DID win a couple Senate seats and are willing to caucus with them to give them the votes they need to pass legislation. BUT ONLY if they'll give New Mexico $10 billion dollars in taxpayer money to with whatever they want, no strings attached? And, also, for local political reasons, the NMSAP would not vote for any legislation that would authorize the building of a border wall or other hardline border restrictions, under any circumstances.

[Montegriffo]

What makes it worse is the fact that the government is supposed to act as an independant go between in the Northern Ireland power sharing agreement. The republican Sinn Fein party is not happy that the Tories are in debt to the DUP.

[TheReal_ND]

I thought DUP was pro immigration reform though. I literally never heard of them before last week.