Venezuela news

[jbird4049]

Our leader abandoned us to go Nuclear Republican.

When it comes to all war all the time how are the neo-cons or the neo-libels any different? Trump is more reckless and adventurous, but that's all I can see.

[Zlaxer]

Wasn't talking about you specifically, just responding to the news.

What do you propose doing about it?

Perhaps it's time to start shipping / air dropping in food - these people aren't North Koreans - they will know where the packages are coming from - the central government is literally starving the people. The US should use soft power to persuade Venezuelan Military leaders that it's time for the deposit to go...confiscation of humanitarian supplies from starving civilians by Maduro may be the crack in the dam that causes it to fail...I don't want to sent in an occupying force, convincing Venezuelan generals is likely the key here.

I can't think of a country South of the Rio Grande that the United States hasn't done at least one of the following invaded, attacked, overthrown, blockaded, assassinated, bribed, created "resistance" organizations often just to maintain a corporation's profit margins. It didn't really matter if they were leftist, or rightist, just as long as they did exactly what they were told to do or didn't.

Peru maybe, Brazil?

Anyways, going in at all will make enormous numbers of people angry.

So it's your opinion that the US is currently to blame for Maduro's inability to govern? When Chili has almost become a 1rst world state? Not buying it.....

Venezuela's problems stem from their caste system and from the rich not paying any attention to the needs of the poor for decades....they elected a populist who fucked them harder than the combined medleing of the US in all SA.....

Venezuela is another failed left shithole.....let's keep the blame with those who have governed it for the last 30 years....

[TheReal_ND]

Our leader abandoned us to go Nuclear Republican.

When it comes to all war all the time how are the neo-cons or the neo-libels any different? Trump is more reckless and adventurous, but that's all I can see.

Neocons actually have a history that you can look up on Wikipedia under Frankfurt School. I'm not sure if neoliberals are much different other than the radical SJW'ism that has been hatched in academia. They have constantly shown they are just as blood thirsty for foreign wars this election cycle. Trump seems to be playing a game of sorts concerning foreign interventialism. The missile strikes were a bad precedent but not really indicative of anything because all of our presidents do missile strikes like a right of passage. His arming the Kurds though is a very bad precedent that will only end in instability in the region. Such a bad idea man.

[Okeefenokee]

Our leader abandoned us to go Nuclear Republican.

When it comes to all war all the time how are the neo-cons or the neo-libels any different? Trump is more reckless and adventurous, but that's all I can see.

Then you're blind.

Bush toppled the Taliban, leading to 16 years of insurgency and civil war.

Bush toppled Saddam, leading to 14 years of insurgency and civil war.

Obama toppled Qaddafi six years ago, leading to insurgency and civil war ever since.

Obama sent arms to rebels in the middle of a civil war in Syria, leading to continued civil war and insurgency in both Syria and Iraq.

Trump launched a few missiles at a vacant airstrip.

The arming of the Kurds has yet to play out.

[Okeefenokee]

Perhaps it's time to start shipping / air dropping in food - these people aren't North Koreans - they will know where the packages are coming from - the central government is literally starving the people. The US should use soft power to persuade Venezuelan Military leaders that it's time for the deposit to go...confiscation of humanitarian supplies from starving civilians by Maduro may be the crack in the dam that causes it to fail...I don't want to sent in an occupying force, convincing Venezuelan generals is likely the key here.

I can't think of a country South of the Rio Grande that the United States hasn't done at least one of the following invaded, attacked, overthrown, blockaded, assassinated, bribed, created "resistance" organizations often just to maintain a corporation's profit margins. It didn't really matter if they were leftist, or rightist, just as long as they did exactly what they were told to do or didn't.

Peru maybe, Brazil?

Anyways, going in at all will make enormous numbers of people angry.

So it's your opinion that the US is currently to blame for Maduro's inability to govern? When Chili has almost become a 1rst world state? Not buying it.....

Venezuela's problems stem from their caste system and from the rich not paying any attention to the needs of the poor for decades....they elected a populist who fucked them harder than the combined medleing of the US in all SA.....

Venezuela is another failed left shithole.....let's keep the blame with those who have governed it for the last 30 years....

Same old story. Blame America for everything.

[jbird4049]

Our leader abandoned us to go Nuclear Republican.

When it comes to all war all the time how are the neo-cons or the neo-libels any different? Trump is more reckless and adventurous, but that's all I can see.

Neocons actually have a history that you can look up on Wikipedia under Frankfurt School. I'm not sure if neoliberals are much different other than the radical SJW'ism that has been hatched in academia. They have constantly shown they are just as blood thirsty for foreign wars this election cycle. Trump seems to be playing a game of sorts concerning foreign interventialism. The missile strikes were a bad precedent but not really indicative of anything because all of our presidents do missile strikes like a right of passage. His arming the Kurds though is a very bad precedent that will only end in instability in the region. Such a bad idea man.

I'm not saying who's better I'm just saying Democratic and Republican administrations have been messing with all the states regardless of their ostensible policies south of us and they don't like.

[jbird4049]

Our leader abandoned us to go Nuclear Republican.

When it comes to all war all the time how are the neo-cons or the neo-libels any different? Trump is more reckless and adventurous, but that's all I can see.

Then you're blind.

Bush toppled the Taliban, leading to 16 years of insurgency and civil war.

Bush toppled Saddam, leading to 14 years of insurgency and civil war.

Obama toppled Qaddafi six years ago, leading to insurgency and civil war ever since.

Obama sent arms to rebels in the middle of a civil war in Syria, leading to continued civil war and insurgency in both Syria and Iraq.

Trump launched a few missiles at a vacant airstrip.

The arming of the Kurds has yet to play out.

I could easily be wrong but it's only the first hundred days. Give it time.

[Okeefenokee]

When it comes to all war all the time how are the neo-cons or the neo-libels any different? Trump is more reckless and adventurous, but that's all I can see.

Then you're blind.

Bush toppled the Taliban, leading to 16 years of insurgency and civil war.

Bush toppled Saddam, leading to 14 years of insurgency and civil war.

Obama toppled Qaddafi six years ago, leading to insurgency and civil war ever since.

Obama sent arms to rebels in the middle of a civil war in Syria, leading to continued civil war and insurgency in both Syria and Iraq.

Trump launched a few missiles at a vacant airstrip.

The arming of the Kurds has yet to play out.

I could easily be wrong but it's only the first hundred days. Give it time.

Give it time he says. What do you think I'm doing? You're the one saying Trump is more reckless and adventurous when he hasn't come close to the levels of reckless foreign adventurism of his previous two predecessors. Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya represent 36 years of of lawlessness and civil war created as the direct result of the actions of the last two presidents, and you're saying Trump is worse than them....why?

There hasn't been anything comparable under him, yet, so you should take your own advice.

[jbird4049]

I can't think of a country South of the Rio Grande that the United States hasn't done at least one of the following invaded, attacked, overthrown, blockaded, assassinated, bribed, created "resistance" organizations often just to maintain a corporation's profit margins. It didn't really matter if they were leftist, or rightist, just as long as they did exactly what they were told to do or didn't.

Peru maybe, Brazil?

Anyways, going in at all will make enormous numbers of people angry.

So it's your opinion that the US is currently to blame for Maduro's inability to govern? When Chili has almost become a 1rst world state? Not buying it.....

Venezuela's problems stem from their caste system and from the rich not paying any attention to the needs of the poor for decades....they elected a populist who fucked them harder than the combined medleing of the US in all SA.....

Venezuela is another failed left shithole.....let's keep the blame with those who have governed it for the last 30 years....

Same old story. Blame America for everything.

We have a lot to be blamed for. And often people, and nations, are compared to what they did not what they are doing. Which is often unfair but it's life.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Given our near-total level of influence over the world at this point, yeah. Most things that happen now are related to American actions.