Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:21 am

Fife wrote:Everything in life is marketing. Everything.


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Hmmmmm........ probably have heard that before, never gave it a lot of thought in those terms.

I will say this, the marketing of the Prepper Movement has been very effective. It has created a Billion Dollar Industry. I view most prepping as a bad mix of American Consumerism, doubt in our system, and hero mentality. Far too many internet tough guys out there. I tell you who would fail in that situation is James Yeager, he's just such a toxic personality I wouldn't want to be within miles of the guy in a crisis situation.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:25 am

C-Mag wrote:
Fife wrote:Everything in life is marketing. Everything.


:think:
Hmmmmm........ probably have heard that before, never gave it a lot of thought in those terms.

I will say this, the marketing of the Prepper Movement has been very effective. It has created a Billion Dollar Industry. I view most prepping as a bad mix of American Consumerism, doubt in our system, and hero mentality. Far too many internet tough guys out there. I tell you who would fail in that situation is James Yeager, he's just such a toxic personality I wouldn't want to be within miles of the guy in a crisis situation.
Yeah, I'd avoid anyone that feels a need to flex and speak that loudly constantly. Some serious personality issues brewing in there.
like BroGrump is doing
Thanks, man. I think I have a decent balance between paranoid delusion, and pragmatism. I think the key is to just build skills that you can use even if things don't go to shit. You can save massive amounts of money, just learning to do things yourself.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:33 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Fife wrote:Everything in life is marketing. Everything.


:think:
Hmmmmm........ probably have heard that before, never gave it a lot of thought in those terms.

I will say this, the marketing of the Prepper Movement has been very effective. It has created a Billion Dollar Industry. I view most prepping as a bad mix of American Consumerism, doubt in our system, and hero mentality. Far too many internet tough guys out there. I tell you who would fail in that situation is James Yeager, he's just such a toxic personality I wouldn't want to be within miles of the guy in a crisis situation.
Yeah, I'd avoid anyone that feels a need to flex and speak that loudly constantly. Some serious personality issues brewing in there.
like BroGrump is doing
Thanks, man. I think I have a decent balance between paranoid delusion, and pragmatism. I think the key is to just build skills that you can use even if things don't go to shit. You can save massive amounts of money, just learning to do things yourself.

Credit where it's due man.

Skills outweigh gear most of the time. And you are an example of working with what you have to better your situation.

A moderately simple task of starting a fire for instance. You can have all the matches and lighters, and fire starter gadgets you want, and under moderately challenging conditions if you lack knowledge and skills you will either not be able to get a fire going, or not sustain a fire. It takes practice and skill to be proficient at any task. I've seen it a lot of times.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:30 pm

Prepping has become crazy. It's mostly people larping and buying lots of guns.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:33 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Prepping has become crazy. It's mostly people larping and buying lots of guns.
Yeah, a significant portion of them are just white-right-crazies that want an excuse to go Mad Max. It's a shame, but they'll be out there in force when SHTF.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:53 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Prepping has become crazy. It's mostly people larping and buying lots of guns.
Yeah, a significant portion of them are just white-right-crazies that want an excuse to go Mad Max. It's a shame, but they'll be out there in force when SHTF.

Most of them will be dead inside of a few months.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Prepping has become crazy. It's mostly people larping and buying lots of guns.
Yeah, a significant portion of them are just white-right-crazies that want an excuse to go Mad Max. It's a shame, but they'll be out there in force when SHTF.

Most of them will be dead inside of a few months.
Agreed. It's just a matter of avoiding them until then. I'll never live in an "urban center", but I'm trying hard to get out of the burbs as well. Rural life sounds much more my style, it's just a hell of a commute to work.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:05 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Yeah, a significant portion of them are just white-right-crazies that want an excuse to go Mad Max. It's a shame, but they'll be out there in force when SHTF.

Most of them will be dead inside of a few months.
Agreed. It's just a matter of avoiding them until then. I'll never live in an "urban center", but I'm trying hard to get out of the burbs as well. Rural life sounds much more my style, it's just a hell of a commute to work.

A lot of them will have maybe a few months of food, so they will stick around for a while. The problem is that they "prep" for some kind of Fallout New Vegas world instead of stockpiling LOTS of food, tools, means to produce food, etc. Some of them are pretty fucking scary too, talking about becoming raiders or whatever.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:09 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Most of them will be dead inside of a few months.
Agreed. It's just a matter of avoiding them until then. I'll never live in an "urban center", but I'm trying hard to get out of the burbs as well. Rural life sounds much more my style, it's just a hell of a commute to work.

A lot of them will have maybe a few months of food, so they will stick around for a while. The problem is that they "prep" for some kind of Fallout New Vegas world instead of stockpiling LOTS of food, tools, means to produce food, etc. Some of them are pretty fucking scary too, talking about becoming raiders or whatever.
Yeah, that's the problem. They're the ones that will be raping and pillaging to stay alive, that the people that can actually make it on their own have to guard against.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:10 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Agreed. It's just a matter of avoiding them until then. I'll never live in an "urban center", but I'm trying hard to get out of the burbs as well. Rural life sounds much more my style, it's just a hell of a commute to work.

A lot of them will have maybe a few months of food, so they will stick around for a while. The problem is that they "prep" for some kind of Fallout New Vegas world instead of stockpiling LOTS of food, tools, means to produce food, etc. Some of them are pretty fucking scary too, talking about becoming raiders or whatever.
Yeah, that's the problem. They're the ones that will be raping and pillaging to stay alive, that the people that can actually make it on their own have to guard against.

You need to build a community of people who can band together and help each other out in hard times. This includes a great depression, which in my opinion is what people really need to plan for. The people who go to a gun range all the time and prepare for some kind of apocalyptic battlefield are going to be a big problem whenever law and order are interrupted.

But so too are all the liberals in the cities with maybe three to five days worth of food on hand..