We Need To Export MAGA to Canada.

[DrYouth]

We're good at assimilating immigrants.... Better than most.

[Smitty-48]

What those measures would be is beyond me, there's nothing Canada is good at that many other countries are not just as if not better at, what is it that we are supposedly so great at?

Hockey for one. World Hockey Supremacy baby, obviously a very important measure of greatness.

By a very narrow margin, we do not have a "great" superiority over other hockey powers, we are hanging on by our finger nails, the idea that the Americans are not going to be able to catch us and then pass us in hockey superiority, is whistling past the graveyard.

[C-Mag]

It's all about tapping into nostalgia for An America The Never Was, it's not about claiming America isn't great. Again is the last word and has the least emphasis, damn MAGA haters are obtuse. Make America Great, is far more important to the phrase than the Again part, which is simply in there to tap into nostalgia and if "Make America Great" was enough to tap into that sense of nostalgia then would have left the word "Again" out of the slogan altogether.

That's exactly what it is, about nostalgia. It is vague enough to allow people to insert there own belief in what made America Great in the first place. History will judge if we were ever great. While the multitudes look at the US as a modern Rome, I increasingly view America as a modern Byzantium; an extension of the British Empire.

Anyway, the motto works very well for Trump.

[Smitty-48]

We're good at assimilating immigrants.... Better than most.

That's a self aggrandizing myth, but not actually the case, we might be less xenopohobic than the Americans, but we are not actually better at integration.

[StCapps]

What those measures would be is beyond me, there's nothing Canada is good at that many other countries are not just as if not better at, what is it that we are supposedly so great at?

Hockey for one. World Hockey Supremacy baby, obviously a very important measure of greatness.

By a very narrow margin, we do not have a "great" superiority over other hockey powers, we are hanging on by our finger nails, the idea that the Americans are not going to be able to catch us and then pass us in hockey superiority, is whistling past the graveyard.

Even when they pass us we'll still have the superior hockey culture and produce more quality hockey players per capita than they could ever dream of. They might be able to overwhelm us eventually because they have 10X our population, but pound for pound they aren't even close.

[Smitty-48]

I don't think so, because hockey culture is actually dying in Canada, as soccer and basketball culture rises, we are urbanizing and internationalizing, our capacity to churn out Gordie Howe's from the farms and fields is going away, and its going away fast.

[Smitty-48]

I mean, if you want to talk about a fantasy land, a fantasy country that doesn't exist except in mythmaking and nostalgia, that's actually unCanadian in of itself, if you want to do that, then you're actually becoming more American and less Canadian all the time, which may in fact be the case, but would in fact ultimately spell the doom of Canada in the end.

[StCapps]

I don't think so, because hockey culture is actually dying in Canada, as soccer and basketball culture rises, we are urbanizing and internationalizing, our capacity to churn out Gordie Howe's from the farms and fields is going away, and its going away fast.

You oversell that dynamic. When we stop producing the majority of quality NHL level talent, maybe I should start to worry. Basketball and Soccer will cut into hockey's popularity but it will hardly kill hockey culture in Canada, let's be real. The US are miles away from catching up to our hockey culture, if they ever do. The Yanks simply don't care enough about hockey to ever pass us, and until that changes they won't ever come close to eclipsing us as the premier hockey superpower. The US sure have the population to catch us if they ever start caring about hockey anywhere near as much as we do, but I just don't see that happening, at all.

[Smitty-48]

No, the American hockey culture is strong and getting stronger, Auston Matthews is the harbinger, that is the future of American hockey, Gary Bettman took hockey to the whole of the USA, and it is starting to pay off for them, there are as many hardcore hockey fans in America, as there are people in Canada, although, as in many cases with American sport, it is more expressed through the NCAA and their fierce loyalties to their alma mater's than it is expressed through the NHL.

[StCapps]

No, the American hockey culture is strong and getting stronger, Auston Matthews is the harbinger, that is the future of American hockey, Gary Bettman took hockey to the whole of the USA, and it is starting to pay off for them, there are as many hardcore hockey fans in America, as there are people in Canada, although, as in many cases with American sport, it is more expressed through the NCAA and their fierce loyalties to their alma maters than it is expressed throught the NHL.

Gary Bettman put hockey in markets that don't work and America isn't on the verge of shit as a result. You just like your boy Auston Matthews too much. He's no harbinger, anymore than Patrick Kane was, American hockey culture is getting better, but it is nothing in comparison to Canada's hockey culture. The NCAA sucks balls. You are talking nonsense. Most of the best Yanks are products of Canadian hockey culture, Matthews and Kane are obvious exceptions to rule, get fucking real. Auston Matthews is just the next great Yank developed player, their is no giant wave of them coming down the pipe threatening to unseat Canadian hockey supremacy.

Your went on and on about specific to general fallacies with StA, yet you still hold up a clear exception as the new rule when talking puck with me? Step your game up bro.