708 Marxism Went Underground

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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:46 pm

WTF? I said exactly the opposite. When everyone is an authority, there is no authority.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:09 pm

Da Commies done pulled a worldcom, yo.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by brewster » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:44 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:46 pm
WTF? I said exactly the opposite. When everyone is an authority, there is no authority.
It's so far opposite it's all the way around to the same thing. You know who loves shit like that? Authoritarians of any flavor. Because then they don't have to defend anything, they just say: "IT IS BECAUSE WE SAY SO, WHO ARE YOU TO CONTRADICT US! THERE'S NO AUTHORITY BUT US, AND WE CAN PROVE OUR AUTHORITY WITH VIOLENCE". It's pretty much a dead giveaway of authoritarians when they get pissed at being challenged prove their case. That's why they hate the press so much, and call them the "enemy of the state".
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:46 pm

OK, Commie.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by brewster » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:56 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:46 pm
OK, Commie.
You ever notice the irony that the press here is accused of being commies, but in actual Stalinist countries the free press isn't tolerated for a moment. You want a "barometer of freedom" for a place? Check if you can vote with your feet and leave, or say whatever you want without fear for your freedom.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:26 pm

brewster wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:56 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:46 pm
OK, Commie.
You ever notice the irony that the press here is accused of being commies, but in actual Stalinist countries the free press isn't tolerated for a moment. You want a "barometer of freedom" for a place? Check if you can vote with your feet and leave, or say whatever you want without fear for your freedom.
I do notice that useful idiots support a system that would take away their rights in a heartbeat if they actually got what they advocated for. When I point that out though, people like you just claim they aren't real communists, completely missing the point and playing No True Scotsman as if that is some kind of mic drop.

Your shit is tiresome brewster, just call a commie a commie, and stop being spineless about it with your silly word games. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, so stop falling for nice sounding labels as if that makes the communist bullshit smell any sweeter, it does not. Communists who don't want to be exposed as communists love nice sounding labels to make themselves sound smarter and less extremist than they actually are, they are simply pulling a worldcom because "communism" doesn't sell like it used to and they need a new label to sell it.

Hash nailed it. Once the commies lost, they realized they needed to change their branding to sell the same bullshit they've always been selling. Just because they changed the focus from economics to other issues, does not alter the fact that it's still communism repackaged for a different issue with a nicer sounding label with less baggage. It's still the same backwards thinking simply applied to another issue so the rubes won't notice it's the same flawed thinking.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by brewster » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:52 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:26 pm
brewster wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:56 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:46 pm
OK, Commie.
You ever notice the irony that the press here is accused of being commies, but in actual Stalinist countries the free press isn't tolerated for a moment. You want a "barometer of freedom" for a place? Check if you can vote with your feet and leave, or say whatever you want without fear for your freedom.
I do notice that useful idiots support a system that would take away their rights in heartbeat if they actually got what they advocated for. When I point that out though, people like you just claim they aren't real communists, completely missing the point and playing No True Scotsman as if that is some kind of mic drop.

Your shit is tiresome brewster, just call a commie a commie, and stop being spineless about it with your silly word games. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, so stop falling for nice sounding labels as if that makes the communist bullshit smell any sweeter, it does not.
You just support the case that you guys don't know Communism from Copulation. Distribution of wealth via taxation of capitalism is not Marxist. Vigorously capitalistic nations like Denmark are not Communist, nor Socialist, since the people do not own the means of production, Capitalists do. Your ideology can't even come up with a non-misleading word for what they are.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:55 pm

brewster wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:52 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:26 pm
brewster wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:56 pm

You ever notice the irony that the press here is accused of being commies, but in actual Stalinist countries the free press isn't tolerated for a moment. You want a "barometer of freedom" for a place? Check if you can vote with your feet and leave, or say whatever you want without fear for your freedom.
I do notice that useful idiots support a system that would take away their rights in heartbeat if they actually got what they advocated for. When I point that out though, people like you just claim they aren't real communists, completely missing the point and playing No True Scotsman as if that is some kind of mic drop.

Your shit is tiresome brewster, just call a commie a commie, and stop being spineless about it with your silly word games. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, so stop falling for nice sounding labels as if that makes the communist bullshit smell any sweeter, it does not.
You just support the case that you guys don't know Communism from Copulation. Distribution of wealth via taxation of capitalism is not Marxist. Vigorously capitalistic nations like Denmark are not Communist, nor Socialist, since the people do not own the means of production, Capitalists do. Your ideology can't even come up with a non-misleading word for what they are.
You support the case that you don't know what Communism is, or what I think Communism is. Communism is not a misleading label when properly applied.

The Oppressor vs. Oppressed worldview applied to social issues instead of economic issues is still fucking communism dumbass. It isn't only communism when applied to class, and all of a sudden not communism when applied to race, gender or sexual orientation. It's the same shit dude, and the results are just as bad if not worse when applied to social issues as when applied to economic issues.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:04 pm

Commies spend all their time insulting other people and making Oral Illusions. My FB feeds are awash in them. I would simply delete Brewster there. Here I let him endlessly insult me. I got used to it.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:06 pm

At least Marty Hash knows a communist when he sees one, unlike some people.
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