The Causes of American Gun Violence

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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Ph64 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:18 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:46 am
Fife wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:37 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:32 am
Pretty much like connecting unrelated phenomena to global warming in order to argue for more environmentalist policies. Nonsense.

I have my theories, but they are not excuses to bitch about shit I don't like.
OK, big boy, stick your theories out there for us to analyze and learn from.

If ending the empire and American warfare is a non sequitur, I'm willing to be educated.

Some things have obviously changed in the last 50 or 60 years. What are they?
Alienation and collapse of the American father is a major player. Add to that an entertainment industry that models this behavior through film/television, video games, and music.

Put a teenaged boy in a shithole government school where he is completely alienated, marginalized by female-dominant school policies, tormented by other kids with impunity, etc. Then fill his mind with violent music, films, and video games where there are no protagonists at all but, rather, the glorified anti-hero.. and some percentage of them are going to get these impulses.

Take away a religious community, or really any community at all, and you not only accentuate the alienation but also take away the very moral and psychological safety net that can pull a kid back from the brink.

Scouts are run by homosexuals. No role-models there. Women are now going to dominate that too. Churches, if his single mother even takes him, are likely liberalized and run by ridiculous women who call themselves "pastors". Teachers are a bunch of radical left wing feminists that hate males and they can't help him.

I could make a long, long fucking list of shit that contributes to this but killing dindus in Afghanistan does not factor in there at all. I don't like the assassinations and pointless wars either, but I wouldn't try to exploit a mass shooting to counter-signal that stuff.
Don't forget constantly reinforcing that your male child is "sick" with "toxic masculinity" because he can't be allowed to jump off the jungle gym, climb trees, etc, because they "might get hurt", but since they need to be 'protected' from everything they get fidgety and don't pay attention so they need to be drugged up on Ritalin and the like, or in many cases they won't be allowed in school. They can get put on SSRIs too as they get older, to make up for the fact of their absent father, or emotionally absent parents too occupied with their own lives to care/notice.

That's if they don't "decide" with their 6y/o adult minds that they aren't the right gender, after you've exposed them to storytelling pedophile drag-queens at an age they barely understand themselves, then you'd better put them on hormone blockers immediately or the state will take custody of them from those evil parents.

But honestly, I can't see any reason why society would be producing far less well adjusted kids than the past. :whistle: :think:

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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:54 pm

All those problems in society and you still think easy access to firearms is a good idea.
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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:03 pm

Get rid of plastic forks in the UK and then come back with more lectures.

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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:03 pm

As any rational person can see, the very people who advance these problems are the people who want to ban the human rights of self-defense and self-government.

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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:07 pm

Fife wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:03 pm
Get rid of plastic forks in the UK and then come back with more lectures.
You want to compare deaths caused by plastic forks with those caused by firearms?
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Ph64 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:10 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:54 pm
All those problems in society and you still think easy access to firearms is a good idea.
Hmm... Govt creates problems with their policies destroying 2-parent families/marriage, forcing kids to be medicated, etc. Medicated kids from the destruction created by policy shoot up schools.

Monte's Solution? Rather than fix broken policies, create a new policy (gun confiscation) to take even more rights away.

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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:11 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:03 pm
As any rational person can see, the very people who advance these problems are the people who want to ban the human rights of self-defense and self-government.
Well, you got me there. If anywhere needs to arm its citizens for self-defense it would be the US. They don't even stop the mentally ill having guns.
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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:14 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:07 pm
Fife wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:03 pm
Get rid of plastic forks in the UK and then come back with more lectures.
You want to compare deaths caused by plastic forks with those caused by firearms?
That seems to be a British obsession, but keep banning things and you're sure to get there someday.

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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:16 pm

Fife wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:14 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:07 pm
Fife wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:03 pm
Get rid of plastic forks in the UK and then come back with more lectures.
You want to compare deaths caused by plastic forks with those caused by firearms?
That seems to be a British obsession, but keep banning things and you're sure to get there someday.
If by ''there'', you mean not needing to be armed to feel safe, we're already there.
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Re: The Causes of American Gun Violence

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:31 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:16 pm
Fife wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:14 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:07 pm


You want to compare deaths caused by plastic forks with those caused by firearms?
That seems to be a British obsession, but keep banning things and you're sure to get there someday.
If by ''there'', you mean not needing to be armed to feel safe, we're already there.
Feeling safe and being safe are two different things. You feel safe because you think government gun bans will keep you safe, because you're delusional.
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