Marxism Never Died, It Just Went Underground

[heydaralon]

Credit card companies aren’t denying payment processing because they’ll make more money.

Sporting goods stores didn’t stop selling guns to 18 year olds because they’ll make more money.

Google isn’t changing search results to make more money.

Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. doesn’t deplatform people to make more money.

The people doing this don’t need any more fucking money; these are the most elite, wealthy people in the world.

what is your point? They are putting their finger in the wind and trying to corner the market in the next quarter. If SJW shit sells, then they try to capture it by doing all the stuff you are talking about. I think a lot of these execs feel strongly about social justice issues, but a big part of why they feel strongly is the fact that this shit is going to benefit their company's image.

[Martin Hash]

Jeffersonian Liberty is personal autonomy; people are responsible for their own actions, and reap the rewards or suffer the consequences thereof. Jeffersonian Liberty is also bounded by the liberty of others.

Capitalism just happens to match that ideal but Capitalism has the major flaw that it concentrates wealth. Liberty requires two components: freedom & opportunity. Concentrated wealth hoardes opportunity, which limits liberty.

[TheReal_ND]

And speaking of Marxism. You know what I was taught in my 5th grade G&Tclasses? Chinese and Russian history. I've spent more than half my life believing they have some rich superb culture and the opposite is the truth.

[Martin Hash]

People embrace Marxism because it appeals to their base emotion of envy. Envy can only be countered by indoctrination of youth. When we lost the schools and entertainment, we not only lost our barrier against envy, they actually now preach it.

[heydaralon]

I disagree with the idea of attributing anything China or Russia has done regarding their well being to capitalism. Hell, where the fuck is the capitalism everyone speaks of? It's not here. It was never there and never will be. China and Russia were backwards. Seriously you can be an uncooked barbarian and eventually learn something from being dominated for hundreds of years. China and Russia are poor arguments imnsho.

In China, you can invest in the stock market, sell to the west, buy limited amounts of foreign property. Some folks there make a killing. You cannot however, speak out against the government. That is the Faustian bargain the proles make with the Party. Be economically, not politically liberal, get economic growth every year, but expect your political rights to remain stagnant. It remains to be seen how long this delicate balance will remain in place, but there are a plethora of third world countries that employ this model to varying degrees. Its not that new of a thing worldwide. Shit, in China you can run over a toddler and never go to jail if you pay the family money. Some people will kill rather than maim their accident victims, backing the car back over their bodies, because a lump sum burial/retribution fee to the family is cheaper than paying for a lifetime of disability payments. Look it up man it is crazy. Hell, in some ways, Capitalist-Leninist China uses the market to control human behavior more than our culture does.

[Martin Hash]

Give me a kid for 6 hours a day for 16 years and I’ll make him believe a man can come back from the dead, or ride a flying horse. I can also preach the tenets of Marxism, but hidden in environmentalism, civil rights, and feminism, so that The Patriarchy doesn’t know a coup is happening until it has.

[TheReal_ND]

Shit, in China you can run over a toddler and never go to jail if you pay the family money. Some people will kill rather than maim their accident victims, backing the car back over their bodies, because a lump sum burial/retribution fee to the family is cheaper than paying for a lifetime of disability payments

Yes they literally hit reverse when they accidentally hit someone to make sure they are dead. Fuck those ant people.

Matter of fact I'm quite certain they are a capitalist wet dream.

[Martin Hash]

The fight is NOT for Capitalism, and it is NOT for democracy, and it is NOT for Nationalism - it is for LIBERTY.

[heydaralon]

Give me a kid for 6 hours a day for 16 years and I’ll make him believe a man can come back from the dead, or ride a flying horse. I can also preach the tenets of Marxism, but hidden in environmentalism, civil rights, and feminism, so that The Patriarchy doesn’t know a coup is happening until it has.

I agree that a big reason this shit is happening is from the education system. The market is not going to fix that problem because most people don't care enough to send their kids to private schools, or charter schools, and teachers unions/administrators/Dem politicians/media will fight that idea tooth and nail. Most people who hate SJW stuff don't want to be teachers either. Hell, I could be a teacher if I wanted, but I have no desire to be placed in a ghetto area and become jaded by all of the red tape, beauracracy, and general disinterest of the students and teachers. I remember how shitty my public school teachers were. Its probably gotten worse. If your goal is to fix the system in that regard, you would have to convince a bunch of conservative people to sign on to become public school teachers. Maybe when you run for office next time that can be one of your political issues.

[Martin Hash]

Only America has liberty.

Liberty is also at risk from people like StA who call it “degeneracy.”

Liberty is a rare and delicate thing, difficult to find, and easy to lose.