Progressivism's relentless War on your Freedom and Liberty

[Zlaxer]

Step one involves realizing what you are dealing with. Approaching this thing as if it is a legitimate political ideology really undermines any subsequent efforts made on that false basis. It's just degeneracy. It's people wanting to become more animal-like and less civilized. They rationalize it and their rationalization is what you are dealing with as if that rationalization is an ideology, but you cannot reason with it since in reality you are just dealing with dysfunction and regression.

What these people tout as their ideals really amount to pursuing base desires (sex, greed, etc.). It's the opposite of a civilization.

Or, it's simply just a combination of racism/populism against OWGs....essentially OWGs are the new Jews....

[Speaker to Animals]

Step one involves realizing what you are dealing with. Approaching this thing as if it is a legitimate political ideology really undermines any subsequent efforts made on that false basis. It's just degeneracy. It's people wanting to become more animal-like and less civilized. They rationalize it and their rationalization is what you are dealing with as if that rationalization is an ideology, but you cannot reason with it since in reality you are just dealing with dysfunction and regression.

What these people tout as their ideals really amount to pursuing base desires (sex, greed, etc.). It's the opposite of a civilization.

Or, it's simply just a combination of racism/populism against OWGs....essentially OWGs are the new Jews....

White men are the source and benefactors of the civilization. That's why they are targeted.

[DBTrek]

There's an adage about youth, age, and political leanings. The general gist of it is:

• "If you're not Liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not Conservative when you're 35, you have no brain."

I know my own life has paralleled that adage, and I believe it used to be a common developmental truism. When you're young you have a lot of pie-in-the-sky ideals, but no real knowledge of the government you live under or the realities that life has in store for you. It's much easier to view the government as a parental figure when you're young.

"The man". The one making all the rules and doling out all the punishments. Likewise it's easy to form a rebellious child-parent relationship with the government and adopt familiar behaviors towards it - The government isn't FAIR. The government does BAD things too, it's not perfect! The government should fix some of the fucked up shit in the world! - all attitudes mirroring the child-parent relationship.

It used to be that most people moved on and created families of their own. They went through the transformation of someone's child to someone's parent. They gained experience in looking out for others, providing for others, caring for others, and adopting self sacrifice as a way of life. This expansion of their personality also transformed their view of the role of government. They no longer looked at the state as a parent, because they had become parents, and the differences were clear. This life experience, knowledge, and personal growth, made it easy to spot the flaws in their youthful, childlike, perceptions of government.

Now, of course, we got people acting like fucking kids in their 60's. Seattle is full of 60 and 70-something rebellious "teens' that haven't developed a whit since they were actual teens. Thus the older generations are more liberal than they used to be, largely because they're more self-absorbed and infantile than they used to be. So the adage isn't as true as it once was.

[TheReal_ND]

To compound the problem, we have immigrants from many countries that have a long standing history of running their state controlled economies like a dumpster fire, if fire could be as corrupt as it is short sighted and liberal. Which is why immigration policies are never reformed, despite polling as one of the top two issues in Europe recently (number two is terrorism, im sure there is no correlation) as well as being something that every presidential candidate in the US has stumped on since at least Bil Clinton. "Liberals" won. Their open border, border line commie rhetoric is the "PC," anti "Hate Speech," normative de jur. The elites have no plans for your conservative road maps.

[C-Mag]

If Progressivism is so bad, why is it so popular?
To go after it, you need to answer this question and defeat the mindset that lies beneath it.

Progressivism like Communism promises a bright future. The Progs envision a future run by brilliant highly educated persons, who will engineer a better society, without poverty, hunger or much adversity at all.

Unfortunately their tools to getting there are totalitarian. Eugenics, Central control of Money, Common morality and Law for everyone.

[C-Mag]

Simple solutions appeal to simple minds.
Doubly so when you can cast opponents to simple “solutions” as bigoted misanthropes.

You said in one of the debates surrounding guns that freedom is sometimes messy. And that's the key to accepting Liberty and Freedom, you must also accept that it is messy from time to time. Classic Liberalism doesn't sell a utopia for everyone or anyone. Classic Liberalism is an ideology where the Government's first priority is to keep an environment where you are free to prosper, embrace mediocrity or fail, but it's up to you and your community.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Step one involves realizing what you are dealing with. Approaching this thing as if it is a legitimate political ideology really undermines any subsequent efforts made on that false basis. It's just degeneracy. It's people wanting to become more animal-like and less civilized. They rationalize it and their rationalization is what you are dealing with as if that rationalization is an ideology, but you cannot reason with it since in reality you are just dealing with dysfunction and regression.

What these people tout as their ideals really amount to pursuing base desires (sex, greed, etc.). It's the opposite of a civilization.

Or, it's simply just a combination of racism/populism against OWGs....essentially OWGs are the new Jews....

White men are the source and benefactors of the civilization. That's why they are targeted.

What type of civilization? Some of them were horrible. Also you saying other races cannot build an organized society?

[C-Mag]

What happened around the middle of the 19th C. that gave birth to the ideas that the merit based ideas of the Great Awakening a century earlier should be rejected?

Around 1850 the ideas of Progressivism, Marxism and Modernism(art) start. All of them promise results without personal responsibility required by merit.

Modernism in art made me ask this question.
How is it low skilled artists gave us these abstract products and told us they were great works ? The Collectivist political ideologies of Progressivism and Marxism work the same way.

[TheReal_ND]

Modern art is a tax dodge

[C-Mag]

Greater than that, it's an ethical dodge. One need not spend a lifetime building eye-hand coordination and putting in the long hours of work to create the great works of art. One can simply preserve a pile of dog shit(literally), and call it art. Just as one can say they deserve to be taken care of by others without having earned it.