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Americans Woke on Fake News
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“I've got a phone that allows me to convene Americans from every walk of life, nonprofits, businesses, the private sector, universities to try to bring more and more Americans together around what I think is a unifying theme..." - Obama
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Was there ever a cohesive national narrative that was true? Wasn't it always fake? It's just more polarized now and everything has to fit the narrative. If a story can't be spun into supporting the current narrative it won't be reported at all.kybkh wrote:Where does the cohesive national narrative come from now?
Who are the Truth Tellers?
I like these guys.
https://www.theknifemedia.com
A breath of fresh air.
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Yes, there was a very cohesive national narrative until the Boomers.Hastur wrote:Was there ever a cohesive national narrative that was true? Wasn't it always fake? It's just more polarized now and everything has to fit the narrative. If a story can't be spun into supporting the current narrative it won't be reported at all.kybkh wrote:Where does the cohesive national narrative come from now?
Who are the Truth Tellers?
I like these guys.
https://www.theknifemedia.com
A breath of fresh air.
Was it all a lie? Only after the 1960s. As long as we held true to Manifest Destiny there was no guilt.
There should be no guilt. Colonialist are just the latest, much kinder, version of the Assyrians and all the empires which came before us.
“I've got a phone that allows me to convene Americans from every walk of life, nonprofits, businesses, the private sector, universities to try to bring more and more Americans together around what I think is a unifying theme..." - Obama
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How many of us would subscribe to a news service dedicated to telling truthful news? The percentage of you who would not corresponds to the severity of the current problem.
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Who currently has the credible to sell that product assuming they sincerely wanted to?de officiis wrote:How many of us would subscribe to a news service dedicated to telling truthful news? The percentage of you who would not corresponds to the severity of the current problem.
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We need a prolog algorithm that simply sorts the news according to true/false fact evaluation- then spits out dry, fact-reports as news articles.
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DBTrek wrote:We need a prolog algorithm that simply sorts the news according to true/false fact evaluation- then spits out dry, fact-reports as news articles.
Do you have any idea how hard that problem is?
That "simple" algorithm would win you a Nobel Prize.
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Less hard if a fact-database can be assembled to test against (behold, the internet).
Less hard if a basic fact evaluation algorithm can be written implemented.
You’ll never achieve perfection, but that’s not the goal. The goal is more accuracy and less bias than the current media. Achieving that shouldn’t require too many MIT grads.
Less hard if a basic fact evaluation algorithm can be written implemented.
You’ll never achieve perfection, but that’s not the goal. The goal is more accuracy and less bias than the current media. Achieving that shouldn’t require too many MIT grads.
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How America's Largest Local TV Owner Turned Its News Anchors Into Soldiers In Trump's War On The Media
How America's Largest Local TV Owner Turned Its News Anchors Into Soldiers In Trump's War On The Media
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DBTrek wrote:Less hard if a fact-database can be assembled to test against (behold, the internet).
Less hard if a basic fact evaluation algorithm can be written implemented.
You’ll never achieve perfection, but that’s not the goal. The goal is more accuracy and less bias than the current media. Achieving that shouldn’t require too many MIT grads.
Just identifying a fact alone is an intractable problem. You can only assign confidence values. Most of the methods for doing this involve something similar to Google's page rank algorithm, which is essentially hacked by all the collusion and coordinated messaging. Second method is by creating lists of "trusted" sources, but we don't really have trustworthy sources. They are all trying to hide or distort the truth, or outright lie, in order to further an agenda.
Then there is the computational linguistics problem of processing a news article into some semantic representation that is accurate, which can then be verified with the your facts ontology.