Texas Teachers all riled up

[Zero]

Zero's not being completely straight with us.

I have been in multiple classrooms in Texas where teachers regularly and without hesitation push far left ideas.

Just last month, respect for the first amendment was cynically called, "pulling the free speech card."

The bent is left, and it's hard. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Where? What district? One teachers cynicism represents exactly that teachers cynicism. What was said exactly? I’m honestly curious.

I’m sure there are some nuts out there of all stripes. I said, in almost 20 years of teaching, I’d never met one. I also have no reason to lie to an audience of 20.

Anecdotal? Sure, but certainly more meaningful than your, one, two, ‘several’?

[Speaker to Animals]

From nine years ago:

Among teachers we surveyed 56% were Democrats, 36% Republicans, and 8% independents.

For other state employees it was 56% Democrats, 33% Republicans, and 10% independents.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com ... e.html?m=1


I would not expect that to improve. More likely, an even more solid shift Democrat.

Still, it was less Democrat than I expected, but still a solid Democrat voting base for sure.

[Zero]

From nine years ago:

Among teachers we surveyed 56% were Democrats, 36% Republicans, and 8% independents.

For other state employees it was 56% Democrats, 33% Republicans, and 10% independents.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com ... e.html?m=1


I would not expect that to improve. More likely, an even more solid shift Democrat.

Still, it was less Democrat than I expected, but still a solid Democrat voting base for sure.

Do you know of a resource that has voter turnout numbers for teachers? I’d be curious on those numbers. I haven’t been able to find it yet. I suppose 2014 is the best data to look for. Hm.

I’d also be curious how ‘left’ Texans Dems actually lean.

[Okeefenokee]

Zero's not being completely straight with us.

I have been in multiple classrooms in Texas where teachers regularly and without hesitation push far left ideas.

Just last month, respect for the first amendment was cynically called, "pulling the free speech card."

The bent is left, and it's hard. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Where? What district? One teachers cynicism represents exactly that teachers cynicism. What was said exactly? I’m honestly curious.

I’m sure there are some nuts out there of all stripes. I said, in almost 20 years of teaching, I’d never met one. I also have no reason to lie to an audience of 20.

Anecdotal? Sure, but certainly more meaningful than your, one, two, ‘several’?

In El Paso and Austin.

I'm not gonna go through a play by play. Maybe you're looking at other more radical examples from places like Oregon, and concluding that Texas doesn't have that sort of radical, and it's probably more or less true, but it's incorrect to draw from that that there is no political bias or left leaning among Texas educators. That's just not true.

Now, in STEM, it's almost impossible to tell. A student will poke fun at a particular facet of SJW ideology from time to time, but the professors pretty much never even mention it.

Outside of STEM it's all left. BLM, gender pay gap, transgender, illegal immigration, gun rights. They are all squarely in line with the left's platform, and they don't hide it.

There are signs up all over campus from teachers declaring their support for, "undocumented students."

https://twitter.com/hashtag/uwddeep

Faculty have these signs in their windows all over campus,

[Zero]

Well, yeah. El Paso has a high number of undocumented/first generation Hispanics. And Austin is the little, gerrymandered island of Blue in the state. Hardly representative of the majority of the state.

I dunno, I’ve got a colleague that runs the AVID program at a school and has some Hispanic students who are legal, with parents who aren’t. He stands with his kids who are freaking out about their parents being deported and sees how it’s fucking them up to the point where they’re afraid to go to school. He’s not for open borders or any of that wild-eyed, crazy shit, he’s just trying to teach potential first generation college students who are working their asses off in a select program. Just one story, but maybe some nuance to add.

Teachers aren’t as politically monolithic here as you suggest, and I have a hard time buying that they’re hard left in much, or in over-whelmingly large numbers.

Also, the second picture is from UT - totally different kettle of fish, from your ‘typical’ public school district.

Anyway, to the original point. Teachers are motivated like I’ve never seen - and they aren’t all Democrats.

[Okeefenokee]

I don't disagree that it's gonna vary based on location, but it seemed you were saying there was no particular bent, even in Travis county, as you said.

Which I know isn't the case. I drive there every day.

For instance, a lot of the teachers in our kids' schools go to church with us, and we've talked plenty about how dangerous the territory is regarding religion. We're in a very red area, and the teachers in the schools know they can't speak freely about religion without taking a risk, but they can tell the students that the president is racist, without any risk of repercussions, which has happened.

[Speaker to Animals]

I don't see why this is some controversial statement.

Government schools are a work program for government employees (teachers, administrators, and ancillary staff). As a group, these workers vote democrat. It's a democratic party voting bloc. Which is why the democrats always talk about how they "stand for" the teachers, yada yada, even though those teachers are defrauding millions of American children of literacy or any decent economic future.

The bigger it gets, the worse it gets for students, but the better it gets for the democratic party. If the democrats had their way, everything would be run by the government and we'd all be democratic party voting blocs.

[Zero]

It never takes very long to be reminded about how irrational you are about education. You assume nothing but self-interest and malintent to pretty much anything educators do.

I honestly have never met the kind of teacher you are ever talking about. Most of my co-workers serve their community stakeholders and respond to their needs and wants as best as we can.

[Zero]

I don't disagree that it's gonna vary based on location, but it seemed you were saying there was no particular bent, even in Travis county, as you said.

Which I know isn't the case. I drive there every day.

For instance, a lot of the teachers in our kids' schools go to church with us, and we've talked plenty about how dangerous the territory is regarding religion. We're in a very red area, and the teachers in the schools know they can't speak freely about religion without taking a risk, but they can tell the students that the president is racist, without any risk of repercussions, which has happened.

Sorry, no, I think I was typing to fast I meant that Travis is probably the hardest Left, and that even that doesn’t compare with the left of the coasts. Austin thinks it’s wierd, but outside of UT, it really isn’t.

I get the religion thing, it’s just to touchy for most. I’ve been invited to the FCA prayer around the pole stuff by students a few times, but always decline, even though my students see me in church.

As far as calling a trump a racist, I’d file a complaint with the school. No room or need for that, regardless of my personal thoughts. If I was the principal, I’d type up a memorandum for their personel file if it happened more than once for any given employee.

[Speaker to Animals]

What is with the left's propensity to pathologize and "irrationalize" their opposition?