The Troubles

[DrYouth]

The commies are still around. Just really gay now.

If by commies you mean Catholic nationalist extremists and by gay you mean less inclined to murder men, women and children then you are 100% correct.

[Montegriffo]

Leftist drivel. Your hatred of Trump colors every conversation.

So a preminition of 9/11, 2 years before it happened, ended 30 years of sectarian violence and the painstaking work of two prime ministers (Major was a Tory by the way and contributed far more than Blair who really just turned up at the end and claimed all the glory) was just a coincidence.
Oh well you must be right, you are rich after all.

[Martin Hash]

Dude, there were many peace conferences. You got it right when you said Irish Americans quit funding the IRA. 9/11 did that. Plus, who wants to be associated with killer Arabs.

Having a peace agreement ready was fortuitous.

[BjornP]

Leftist drivel. Your hatred of Trump colors every conversation.

So a preminition of 9/11, 2 years before it happened, ended 30 years of sectarian violence and the painstaking work of two prime ministers (Major was a Tory by the way and contributed far more than Blair who really just turned up at the end and claimed all the glory) was just a coincidence.
Oh well you must be right, you are rich after all.

[TheReal_ND]

The commies are still around. Just really gay now.

If by commies you mean Catholic nationalist extremists and by gay you mean less inclined to murder men, women and children then you are 100% correct.

Commies

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 005AADjq6O

And gay. Like you

[Montegriffo]

The IRA and the Republican movement has always been one that ideology has been complicated.

You had two elements within the republican movement, one which simply wanted to break the connection with Britain, and the other that wanted to break the connection with Britain, and create a different and more equal society in Ireland.

So you have elements within republicanism that couldn`t give a rats ar$e about socialist principles, and then others that were and are firmly commited to them.

Generally the republican movement tends to paper over these divisions in order to keep unity within the republican cause.

As well when you were getting guns from America, and semtex from the eastern bloc there was a case of being all things to all people in the name of pragmatism.

As far as collaboration with the Nazi`s, there were elements of republicanism that always lived by the slogan of England`s misfortune is Irelands opportunity.

Well that's cleared that up for us Nuke, on the other hand there was one thing they all had in common.

[TheReal_ND]

Commies and gay now. Tbf we're grading on an Irish scale and most of Ireland is leftist AF so they might just look like commies to me, besides their known associations with the communist party.

[Speaker to Animals]

By the 1970s and 1980s, the major combatants were Marxists. It never really had anything to do with the Catholic Church. It started as a nationalist movement. The communists took over and ensured Northern Ireland would remain fooked.

[Speaker to Animals]

Bullshit like that ensured Irish Americans would stop handing cash over at the pub.

[Otern]

Americans were certainly less keen to bankroll terrorist organisations after that but seeing as the good Friday accord was 2 years earlier than 9/11 we can dismiss your ''day that changed the world'' scenario on this occasion.
A concerted effort by first John Major and later Tony Blair was responsible for the ''end'' of the troubles. When a state has mature leaders willing to negotiate and compromise like fully grown adults all kinds of seeminly intractable situations can be resolved. Electing a tantrum loving man child is less likely to acheive such end results.
Basically it was ''ended'' by a lot of hard work over several parliaments, a cross party willingness to work together and a real fatigue for violence and the senseless muder and maiming of innocents on both sides of the divide.

The guys at the top did their thing, sure.

But in the nineties, it seems like most of the IRA-actions were done by rather small cells, that could operate individually. Did the Brits get ALL of them, or did they just call it a day and quit fighting? Seems like a hard thing to achieve, but somehow, these small independent cells have also stopped their actions.