Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:19 pm

That's like saying an escaped slave had an obligation to pay for the costs of his capture. It's a totally irredeemable and immoral system of human exploitation. Our obligation is to end it.

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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by jediuser598 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:20 pm

Some of the local populace is weighing in on the issue:
If a inmate is being housed waiting to go in front of judge. Then once in front of judge, if released on own recognince (sp), and/or case dismissed. Then no fee should be assessed. But, if found guilty and being housed for whatever the reason, then there should be a fee implemented. We as taxpayers should not pay to house criminals. Sad, when an inmate has a temperature controlled living facility, bathrooms, tv not to mention 3 meals a day. This is treatment for the*Criminals* we're talking about, not the unfortunate.
Its time people stopped looking the other way and stop worrying about offending a criminal and all the liberal idiots that try to justify them being a criminal. Criminals care less about the damage they do to the people they rob...shoot...or rape. Its time they get the same courtesy they give everyone else.
I think its fair. Someone has to pay to feed these people, pay the utilities, etc. Kentucky already does this and allows the inmate to pay so much a month after they are released and if they miss a payment they go back to jail.
I'll tell you what is unfair. Hard working people who have never been in jail, but have been paying to house criminals for years. There is the injustice.
Why should the taxpayers have to "pay" the consequences of the criminals mistakes? The one responsible for the jail stay, should have to pay. I don't understand the issue.
Hell yes charge them whether they're convicted or not I don't want to pay for some idiot Hotel while they can't behave
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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:22 pm

No not really. Removing the welfare racket, the obligation of the criminal is to do his time. The tax payer or the criminal must foot the bill. I think it's quite clearly more fair to expect the criminal to pay.

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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:32 pm

Nukedog wrote:No not really. Removing the welfare racket, the obligation of the criminal is to do his time. The tax payer or the criminal must foot the bill. I think it's quite clearly more fair to expect the criminal to pay.
it's fair, if you remove part of the time penalty. Otherwise, you're just piling on for the hell of it. Why stop there? Why not $100 a day? $300? Shit, just take everything they have, if they can't pay a parking ticket.

And is that debt discharged on death? Can we take everything from the family of a murder convict?
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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:21 pm

The absurdity of manufacturing debts out of whole cloth that the courts know a man cannot pay, locking him in a cage when he fails to pay what they knew he cannot pay, and them manufacturing the additional debt of having to reimburse them for locking him in a cage against his will. This is nothing more than the state enslaving a segment of the population in indentured servitude for revenue.

That's the America we live in today.

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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by jediuser598 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:41 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The absurdity of manufacturing debts out of whole cloth that the courts know a man cannot pay, locking him in a cage when he fails to pay what they knew he cannot pay, and them manufacturing the additional debt of having to reimburse them for locking him in a cage against his will. This is nothing more than the state enslaving a segment of the population in indentured servitude for revenue.

That's the America we live in today.
It is indeed.

This same county once arrested a bunch of former convicts, why? (I think they were on probation?)"You missed a court date." As one of the fellas who got arrested was sitting there he started talking to the other people in there, "Why are you here?" "Missed a court date, but I never got any letter." "Yeah, neither did I."

I loaned that gentlemen enough to pay the county (the very same county in the article) and he never heard anything ever again from them.
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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:41 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The absurdity of manufacturing debts out of whole cloth that the courts know a man cannot pay, locking him in a cage when he fails to pay what they knew he cannot pay, and them manufacturing the additional debt of having to reimburse them for locking him in a cage against his will. This is nothing more than the state enslaving a segment of the population in indentured servitude for revenue.

That's the America we live in today.
It’s retro British rent seeking. All that’s old is new again.
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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by de officiis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:00 pm

jediuser598 wrote:Some of the local populace is weighing in on the issue:
If a inmate is being housed waiting to go in front of judge. Then once in front of judge, if released on own recognince (sp), and/or case dismissed. Then no fee should be assessed. But, if found guilty and being housed for whatever the reason, then there should be a fee implemented. We as taxpayers should not pay to house criminals. Sad, when an inmate has a temperature controlled living facility, bathrooms, tv not to mention 3 meals a day. This is treatment for the*Criminals* we're talking about, not the unfortunate.
Its time people stopped looking the other way and stop worrying about offending a criminal and all the liberal idiots that try to justify them being a criminal. Criminals care less about the damage they do to the people they rob...shoot...or rape. Its time they get the same courtesy they give everyone else.
I think its fair. Someone has to pay to feed these people, pay the utilities, etc. Kentucky already does this and allows the inmate to pay so much a month after they are released and if they miss a payment they go back to jail.
I'll tell you what is unfair. Hard working people who have never been in jail, but have been paying to house criminals for years. There is the injustice.
Why should the taxpayers have to "pay" the consequences of the criminals mistakes? The one responsible for the jail stay, should have to pay. I don't understand the issue.
Hell yes charge them whether they're convicted or not I don't want to pay for some idiot Hotel while they can't behave
https://www.facebook.com/wsilnews3/?hc_ ... 6o&fref=nf
Strongly disagree with all this. If society chooses to deprive someone of his or her freedom, they have to foot the bill for the benefit of keeping that person incarcerated and out of contact with everyone else.
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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by nmoore63 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:03 pm

Unconstitutional enslavement.

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Re: Perry County to charge inmates $25 a day for cells.

Post by Penner » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:44 pm

jediuser598 wrote:Some of the local populace is weighing in on the issue:
If a inmate is being housed waiting to go in front of judge. Then once in front of judge, if released on own recognince (sp), and/or case dismissed. Then no fee should be assessed. But, if found guilty and being housed for whatever the reason, then there should be a fee implemented. We as taxpayers should not pay to house criminals. Sad, when an inmate has a temperature controlled living facility, bathrooms, tv not to mention 3 meals a day. This is treatment for the*Criminals* we're talking about, not the unfortunate.
Its time people stopped looking the other way and stop worrying about offending a criminal and all the liberal idiots that try to justify them being a criminal. Criminals care less about the damage they do to the people they rob...shoot...or rape. Its time they get the same courtesy they give everyone else.
I think its fair. Someone has to pay to feed these people, pay the utilities, etc. Kentucky already does this and allows the inmate to pay so much a month after they are released and if they miss a payment they go back to jail.
I'll tell you what is unfair. Hard working people who have never been in jail, but have been paying to house criminals for years. There is the injustice.
Why should the taxpayers have to "pay" the consequences of the criminals mistakes? The one responsible for the jail stay, should have to pay. I don't understand the issue.
Hell yes charge them whether they're convicted or not I don't want to pay for some idiot Hotel while they can't behave
https://www.facebook.com/wsilnews3/?hc_ ... 6o&fref=nf

Yeah, it seems that the gen population does not have a lot of empathy towards convicts BUT charging someone $25 a day is pretty fucked up, in my opinion. What happens if their convictions get overturned? Will they still be in debt to the prison and how is this not unusual and cruel?
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