Fife wrote:
I really think somedays some of you all really do want to live in the Panopticon. Why are you all so shook the fuck up?

Fife wrote:
I really think somedays some of you all really do want to live in the Panopticon. Why are you all so shook the fuck up?
Sounds to me like you don't appreciate businesses being able to operate as they freely choose.Fife wrote:I'm talking about a business decision by a low-rate motel firm. Not the Four Seasons, not even Holiday Inn -- Motel 6.
Is being the "see-something, say-something" provider going to help them get yuge market share?
Now, if you want to pass a law requiring innkeepers to act like banks have to act nowadays in snooping into their customers' business, call your Congressman I guess.
I really think somedays some of you all really do want to live in the Panopticon. Why are you all so shook the fuck up?
ICE exists as an arm of the Dept of Homeland Security. I am sure they don't share records though, known, as they are, for respecting citizens' privacy.DBTrek wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Them wily illegals aren't exactly advertising their status.“We send a report every morning to ICE — all the names of everybody that comes in,” one front-desk clerk told the New Times.
If you aren't a criminal, then you shouldn't mind though, right?![]()
The most bizarre use of the "If you're not a criminal" argument I've ever seen leveraged.
"But if you're not a criminal then you shouldn't mind your information being sent to Immigration and Customs Enforcement"?
You shouldn't mind even if you are a criminal - as long as you're a legal resident, right?
“We send a report every morning to ICE — all the names of everybody that comes in,” one front-desk clerk told the New Times. “Every morning at about 5 o’clock, we do the audit and we push a button and it sends it to ICE.”
Well, if you, Fife, and GCF have a problem with Motel 6, Arizona, feel free to stay elsewhere.Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:ICE exists as an arm of the Dept of Homeland Security. I am sure they don't share records though, known, as they are, for respecting citizens' privacy.
How silly of me to use that line.
You seriously think that this is unusual, or unique to Motel 6 in that-particular-city?DBTrek wrote:Well, if you, Fife, and GCF have a problem with Motel 6, Arizona, feel free to stay elsewhere.Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:ICE exists as an arm of the Dept of Homeland Security. I am sure they don't share records though, known, as they are, for respecting citizens' privacy.
How silly of me to use that line.
Or, as good little statist always do, pass a law forbidding private business to report criminal activity.
I mean, you never know when another business might get crosswise to your backward social mores, so sometimes the best thing to do is criminalize everything you disagree with, right?
Noobs.
DBTrek wrote:Sounds to me like you don't appreciate businesses being able to operate as they freely choose.Fife wrote:I'm talking about a business decision by a low-rate motel firm. Not the Four Seasons, not even Holiday Inn -- Motel 6.
Is being the "see-something, say-something" provider going to help them get yuge market share?
Now, if you want to pass a law requiring innkeepers to act like banks have to act nowadays in snooping into their customers' business, call your Congressman I guess.
I really think somedays some of you all really do want to live in the Panopticon. Why are you all so shook the fuck up?
I'm fine with Motel 6, Arizona, doing this if they want to.
Their customers can make their own decisions.
You, on the other hand, seem scandalized that any business might freely choose to notify authorities when scores of criminals are trying to quietly leverage their services.
Who is really pushing Panopticon USA, Fife?
The guy who says "let business do what they want" or the guy who says "OMG OMG OMG POLICE STATE, STOP MOTEL 6 NOW!!!"?
Reality dose.
Have one.
Don't throw out your back trying to twist yourself into being the anti-statist on this one DB. It ain't worth it, there will be other causes, better causes to attack the progressives over.DBTrek wrote:Well, if you, Fife, and GCF have a problem with Motel 6, Arizona, feel free to stay elsewhere.Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:ICE exists as an arm of the Dept of Homeland Security. I am sure they don't share records though, known, as they are, for respecting citizens' privacy.
How silly of me to use that line.
Or, as good little statist always do, pass a law forbidding private business to report criminal activity.
I mean, you never know when another business might get crosswise to your backward social mores, so sometimes the best thing to do is criminalize everything you disagree with, right?
Noobs.
Yep.GrumpyCatFace wrote: You seriously think that this is unusual, or unique to Motel 6 in that-particular-city?