Trump soils the Boy Scouts

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:58 am

pineapplemike wrote:Were the reports I read correct that the Boy Scouts were booing Obama and/or Hillary? I would prefer Trump be apolitical but I guess you can't blame him for playing the crowd
The last time Obama tried in person he was booed, that is why one of the last ones he did was under 2 minutes and recorded... he didn't like being booed.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

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pineapplemike wrote:Were the reports I read correct that the Boy Scouts were booing Obama and/or Hillary? I would prefer Trump be apolitical but I guess you can't blame him for playing the crowd
Why should it be surprising that there are partisan differences among Scouts and their families and that they would express them when given an opportunity? There should not have been any partisan provocations at such a non political event, just the words of encouragement and praise for the institution. Politicizing every aspect of our lives is not a good road to go down, officials representing the party rather than the country at public gatherings is more typical of non-democratic nations.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:25 pm

Lordy.

How many times can we remember Dems politicizing the boy scouts, a christian organization, in the past ten or so years?

The difference is, rather than supporting the scouts, Dems tend to trend towards coercing them to include boy fuckers on their camping trips.

But please, continue. This is hilarious. Tell us how NOW the scouts should be left out of politics.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by Kazmyr » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:38 pm

We've already crossed the Rubicon of politicizing everything.

Think of how many graduation speeches have railed on Trump as of late, or alternatively had the graduating students throw a hissy fit at the speaker (Betsy DeVos).

It's the American M.O., now.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by brewster » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:39 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:Lordy.

How many times can we remember Dems politicizing the boy scouts, a christian organization, in the past ten or so years?
Christian? No, not in any reality, only in your mind. And the Liberals versus Scouts was only about trying to influence the scouts to be more inclusive, successfully I might add, not rally the scouts to their party.

Your ignorance also shows not knowing the elaborate systems and precautions the Scouts have created to prevent any situations of adults of either sex being alone with a child. My son teaching at Scout camp this summer couldn't share a tent with his best friend because he's 18 and his friend is still 17.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by pineapplemike » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:40 pm

brewster wrote:
pineapplemike wrote:Were the reports I read correct that the Boy Scouts were booing Obama and/or Hillary? I would prefer Trump be apolitical but I guess you can't blame him for playing the crowd
Why should it be surprising that there are partisan differences among Scouts and their families and that they would express them when given an opportunity? There should not have been any partisan provocations at such a non political event, just the words of encouragement and praise for the institution. Politicizing every aspect of our lives is not a good road to go down, officials representing the party rather than the country at public gatherings is more typical of non-democratic nations.
+1, it's unfortunate that Trump can't see the appeal in taking the high road over taking advantage of a political opportunity. Even if he was a little more subtle I could forgive him, but a wordsmith he ain't..

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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by brewster » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:43 pm

Kazmyr wrote:We've already crossed the Rubicon of politicizing everything.

Think of how many graduation speeches have railed on Trump as of late, or alternatively had the graduating students throw a hissy fit at the speaker (Betsy DeVos).

It's the American M.O., now.
In both those cases it's private citizens expressing themselves, not an elected official in his official capacity. Putting party before country is definitely the road to the end of our democracy.
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:44 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
brewster wrote:
pineapplemike wrote:Were the reports I read correct that the Boy Scouts were booing Obama and/or Hillary? I would prefer Trump be apolitical but I guess you can't blame him for playing the crowd
Why should it be surprising that there are partisan differences among Scouts and their families and that they would express them when given an opportunity? There should not have been any partisan provocations at such a non political event, just the words of encouragement and praise for the institution. Politicizing every aspect of our lives is not a good road to go down, officials representing the party rather than the country at public gatherings is more typical of non-democratic nations.
+1, it's unfortunate that Trump can't see the appeal in taking the high road over taking advantage of a political opportunity. Even if he was a little more subtle I could forgive him, but a wordsmith he ain't..
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Re: Trump soils the Boy Scouts

Post by Kazmyr » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:53 pm

brewster wrote: In both those cases it's private citizens expressing themselves, not an elected official in his official capacity. Putting party before country is definitely the road to the end of our democracy.
Fair point re: private citizens.

But even politicizing everything else is driving elected officials to do the same. It's the currency of the realm.

When was the last time that elected officials put country before party in an official capacity, and were, subsequently effective in doing so?
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