Justin Trudeau asks Pope for apology

[StCapps]

The Pope should have thrown him such a smack.

The Pope should retort: "We'll leave the saying sorry to the Canadians, they'll say it enough for both parties no matter how much they are to blame and doubly so if they are even a little at fault, so no need to be redundant."

[DBTrek]

Robin Williams in Canada.

[Fife]

[SuburbanFarmer]

There was no "school system" in the 19th century, to speak of. The first schools were run by the Church, and were indoctrination centers for the Savage. They were pretty fucking gruesome in the US and Australia, too.

Gruesome compared to what?
Certainly not compared to 98% of the human, near-starvation level experience, eh?

Maybe only gruesome in the estimation of the useless fops that inhabit that Northern real estate now?


Or did I miss something? I'm no scholar on Canadian Catholic schooling. Did they eat kids? Dismember them? Burn them in wicker people? Take those children tall enough to "pisseth against the wall" and dash their brains out?
Could be my lack of knowledge on the subject is what has me skeptical.

Google is not difficult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_ ... ool_system

Over the course of the system's existence, about 30% of Indigenous children, or roughly 150,000, were placed in residential schools nationally.[3][4]:2–3 At least 6,000 of these students are estimated to have died while residents

A 'school system' with a mortality rate of 4%.

The residential school system harmed Indigenous children significantly by removing them from their families, depriving them of their ancestral languages, exposing many of them to physical and sexual abuse, and forcibly enfranchising them. Disconnected from their families and culture and forced to speak English or French, students who attended the residential school system often graduated unable to fit into either their communities or Canadian society. It ultimately proved successful in disrupting the transmission of Indigenous practices and beliefs across generations. The legacy of the system has been linked to an increased prevalence of post-traumatic stress, alcoholism, substance abuse, and suicide, which persist within Indigenous communities.

The kids were basically forced to abandon their languages, customs, reject everything they had known, and become 'western'. Along with all the usual Catholic school abuses, they were "less human" to their loving educators.

The American versions were actually worse.

[DBTrek]

Google is not difficult.

Indeed it is not. Precisely why it's the sole resource of idiots.

A 'school system' with a mortality rate of 4%.

In a time period when the normal mortality rate was what, Google-genius?

Without perspective anything less than your current, iPhone enabled, instant-food availability, rapid-transit world seems pretty "gruesome", eh?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Google is not difficult.

Indeed it is not. Precisely why it's the sole resource of idiots.

A 'school system' with a mortality rate of 4%.

In a time period when the normal mortality rate was what, Google-genius?

Must be hard . . . having only dogma and Google to guide you through life.

Between 5-18 years old? Not 4%.

Sorry, I thought you were interested in a discussion. I seem to have walked into your troll. Well-played, carry on with your victory.

[DBTrek]

I'm up for a discussion, but I'm not up for battling dogmatic, knee-jerk emotionalism without perspective.

Were "Indian Schools" enjoyable for Native Americans.
Nope.

We're they "Gruesome"?
Nope.

Don't measure the people of the past by your own yardstick of human frailty. Measure them according to their own time. Measure them according to the practices that came before their time, not those that came long after. This is basic stuff.

[TheReal_ND]

Heh. I here about this "Canadian Holocaust," sometimes. It never ceases to amaze how leftists must always find something to guilt white people about.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I'm up for a discussion, but I'm not up for battling dogmatic, knee-jerk emotionalism without perspective.

We're "Indian Schools" enjoyable for Native Americans.
Nope.

We're they "Gruesome"?
Nope.

Don't measure the people of the past by your own yardstick of human frailty. Measure them according to their own time. Measure them according to the practices that came before their time, not those that came long after. This is basic stuff.

You're right. It's probably more sensible to put this into the context of millenia of Catholic sexual and physical abuse of children. On that scale, it's really nothing.

It's basically a 2,000 year old pedophile/blood-worship ring. Ohhhhh...

[DBTrek]

You're right. It's probably more sensible to put this into the context of millenia of Catholic sexual and physical abuse of children. On that scale, it's really nothing.

It's basically a 2,000 year old pedophile/blood-worship ring. Ohhhhh...

"Discussion".

GCF-style.
Well, dogma-bot style, at least.
Huge generic slam on the Church.
We rate this mindless recitation of a tired polemic - 10.0.
Perfect score.