Trump Impeachment

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed May 10, 2017 7:46 pm

This is an unproductive conversation so far

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 10, 2017 7:49 pm

I'll say so.
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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by pineapplemike » Wed May 10, 2017 7:49 pm

heydaralon wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Yeah you probably weren't paying attention when Comey indicted Hilary and told Loretta he wouldn't prosecute. Comey has been trying to play both sides of the fence the whole time. Clinton Foundation? Dude what? Leaked emails that would get Joe Average sent to prison? lol I'm not a lawyer? What is a law anyway?

Even the FBI was so full of their shit that they couldn't see the Trump vote coming. Methinks he opened that BS investigation when he did to cover the IC's ass. Didn't work. But obviously like he said, he "got queasy doing it."

Firing squads gas chambers and ovens I swear to god.

He "re-opened" the investigation right before election day. I don't really know much about the politics behind the scene, but the timing for that was clearly to fuck Clinton over. I'm glad he did it, I just don't fully understand why Trump had it out for the guy when he clearly did Donald a solid.
I think the idea was that Comey feared the information regarding new Weiner-Clinton emails would be leaked to the public and tried to get ahead of it by informing Congress. He said himself at some point during this saga that he had previously told Congress the Clinton email investigation was closed, and by not revealing the new information he could be seen as concealing it from oversight. "Tough call to make but not that tough at all really," I believe were some of his words, IIRC

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by clubgop » Wed May 10, 2017 7:49 pm

Not right now. The dems dont want it. Oh there crazy base does but the politicians, no way. They can raise money and don't take any responsibility for governing. The GOP won't vote to impeach their own President and the Dems know if they got control how badly impeachment hurt the GOP in the 90's. They aint got the stomach for it. This just makes them happy and distracts them from their epic failures to win elections or even field decent canididates.

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 10, 2017 7:51 pm

Damn, so it was basically damage control. Intelligence agency directors come and go, especially after an election, so its not that crazy that they got rid of Comey. From what I read about the guy, there wasn't much to be a fan of tbh.
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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed May 10, 2017 7:52 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
heydaralon wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Yeah you probably weren't paying attention when Comey indicted Hilary and told Loretta he wouldn't prosecute. Comey has been trying to play both sides of the fence the whole time. Clinton Foundation? Dude what? Leaked emails that would get Joe Average sent to prison? lol I'm not a lawyer? What is a law anyway?

Even the FBI was so full of their shit that they couldn't see the Trump vote coming. Methinks he opened that BS investigation when he did to cover the IC's ass. Didn't work. But obviously like he said, he "got queasy doing it."

Firing squads gas chambers and ovens I swear to god.

He "re-opened" the investigation right before election day. I don't really know much about the politics behind the scene, but the timing for that was clearly to fuck Clinton over. I'm glad he did it, I just don't fully understand why Trump had it out for the guy when he clearly did Donald a solid.
I think the idea was that Comey feared the information regarding new Weiner-Clinton emails would be leaked to the public and tried to get ahead of it by informing Congress. He said himself at some point during this saga that he had previously told Congress the Clinton email investigation was closed, and by not revealing the new information he could be seen as concealing it from oversight. "Tough call to make but not that tough at all really," I believe were some of his words, IIRC
This guy gets it.

Clearly more ready to lead a venture than Derilique. It's like going all in on a stock market without hedging. Guess what? He still lost.

Need I remind everyone of his brother's ties to the Clinton Foundation? I feel like this should be common fucking knowledge by now.

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 10, 2017 7:54 pm

clubgop wrote:Not right now. The dems dont want it. Oh there crazy base does but the politicians, no way. They can raise money and don't take any responsibility for governing. The GOP won't vote to impeach their own President and the Dems know if they got control how badly impeachment hurt the GOP in the 90's. They aint got the stomach for it. This just makes them happy and distracts them from their epic failures to win elections or even field decent canididates.
They seem to be hunting with a shotgun in terms of all these scandals. Accusing Trump and his cabinet of anything and everything and hoping something sticks. They have been trying to stick Trump and Russia together for months now, and have not given anything concrete or definitive. Its like six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed May 10, 2017 7:56 pm

You can hunt big game with a slug just saying. Still waiting for that magical Russian slug.

Still waiting ssu....

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 10, 2017 8:01 pm

Even though millions of people believe that Trump and Putin "hacked" the election, I have never talked to anyone or read an article the explains the specific action that Putin took that made the election rigged. If he had hacked voting machines, that would be concrete, but its always this vague shit. Even the former head of the NSA was saying that there was almost certainly nothing there, but now the Democrats kept raising the bet, and their hand is shit. Meanwhile, the Clinton foundation was basically an organized bribery ring between foreign governments and the power couple. I read an article awhile back that said that King of Morocco gave them several million dollars for a five minute talk with Bill.
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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 10, 2017 8:06 pm

Millions of people believe George W. Bush rigged the WTC with thermite and that vaccines cause autism. It doesn't matter.

There's nothing you can do for them. Traumatic events breed weird counter narratives to reality. 9-11 was horrible, and instead of just accepting what happened, it's easier to give it a more complicated plot. Finding out your kid is on the autistic spectrum is terrible. Blaming vaccines at least gives you something to blame.

They lost the election because of their horrible behavior, and the loss totally disproved the "right side of history" belief, and it's quite a lot easier for them to believe their historical determinism is still valid, but that the election was hacked by Putin.

We live on a world inhabited by talking primates.. Have fun!