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[Speaker to Animals]

Actually the "Liberal" Parties and the Socialists were marginalized by the Nazis and the Communists Parties. They actually worked together to destroy the Socialist Party. Tactics including riots, arson, beatings, and the occasional murder. In Berlin, there were large scale riots, or maybe better described as battles between the SA (Nazis Brownshirts/Street Thugs) and what ever the Communists equivalents were with the goal of destabilizing the national government.

Hitler sweet talked the conservative leadership of Big Business and Finance, along with the army's tacit support, to support him being Chancellor. He promised to be a good boy, and rein in the SA while they thought they could control him.

Well, Hitler did murder almost the entire SA leadership (without the bother of trials often) and sent the leadership and much of the members of both the Socialist and Communist Parties.

Of course, he kept on going with the murdering.

Did it not occur to you they had good cause to do so? The communists were dangerous people. They burned down the Reichstag, after all, and were caught plotting to overthrow the German government.

When marxists get that powerful, you seem to have two possibilities: communism or fascism. It depends upon who wins.

[heydaralon]

Actually the "Liberal" Parties and the Socialists were marginalized by the Nazis and the Communists Parties. They actually worked together to destroy the Socialist Party. Tactics including riots, arson, beatings, and the occasional murder. In Berlin, there were large scale riots, or maybe better described as battles between the SA (Nazis Brownshirts/Street Thugs) and what ever the Communists equivalents were with the goal of destabilizing the national government.

Hitler sweet talked the conservative leadership of Big Business and Finance, along with the army's tacit support, to support him being Chancellor. He promised to be a good boy, and rein in the SA while they thought they could control him.

Well, Hitler did murder almost the entire SA leadership (without the bother of trials often) and sent the leadership and much of the members of both the Socialist and Communist Parties.

Of course, he kept on going with the murdering.

Did it not occur to you they had good cause to do so? The communists were dangerous people. They burned down the Reichstag, after all, and were caught plotting to overthrow the German government.

When marxists get that powerful, you seem to have two possibilities: communism or fascism. It depends upon who wins.

In Shirer's Rise and Fall, he talks about how Van der Lubbe was manipulated by the Nazis into burning down the Reichstag as a sort of false flag. Nowadays, it seems like historians lean towards the idea that he was mentally unbalanced and decided to do it himself. Of course, the fire came at the perfect time for the Nazis.

[Okeefenokee]

Actually the "Liberal" Parties and the Socialists were marginalized by the Nazis and the Communists Parties. They actually worked together to destroy the Socialist Party. Tactics including riots, arson, beatings, and the occasional murder. In Berlin, there were large scale riots, or maybe better described as battles between the SA (Nazis Brownshirts/Street Thugs) and what ever the Communists equivalents were with the goal of destabilizing the national government.

Hitler sweet talked the conservative leadership of Big Business and Finance, along with the army's tacit support, to support him being Chancellor. He promised to be a good boy, and rein in the SA while they thought they could control him.

Well, Hitler did murder almost the entire SA leadership (without the bother of trials often) and sent the leadership and much of the members of both the Socialist and Communist Parties.

Of course, he kept on going with the murdering.

Did it not occur to you they had good cause to do so? The communists were dangerous people. They burned down the Reichstag, after all, and were caught plotting to overthrow the German government.

When marxists get that powerful, you seem to have two possibilities: communism or fascism. It depends upon who wins.

There was a revolution, right? It gets glossed over, but there was an overthrow of the government in 1919. I might be wrong, but I would think that in times of revolution, it would be expected that there would be violence.

[heydaralon]

Actually the "Liberal" Parties and the Socialists were marginalized by the Nazis and the Communists Parties. They actually worked together to destroy the Socialist Party. Tactics including riots, arson, beatings, and the occasional murder. In Berlin, there were large scale riots, or maybe better described as battles between the SA (Nazis Brownshirts/Street Thugs) and what ever the Communists equivalents were with the goal of destabilizing the national government.

Hitler sweet talked the conservative leadership of Big Business and Finance, along with the army's tacit support, to support him being Chancellor. He promised to be a good boy, and rein in the SA while they thought they could control him.

Well, Hitler did murder almost the entire SA leadership (without the bother of trials often) and sent the leadership and much of the members of both the Socialist and Communist Parties.

Of course, he kept on going with the murdering.

Did it not occur to you they had good cause to do so? The communists were dangerous people. They burned down the Reichstag, after all, and were caught plotting to overthrow the German government.

When marxists get that powerful, you seem to have two possibilities: communism or fascism. It depends upon who wins.

There was a revolution, right? It gets glossed over, but there was an overthrow of the government in 1919. I might be wrong, but I would think that in times of revolution, it would be expected that there would be violence.

The Spartacistst uprising didn't really pan out because the freikorps pistol whipped Luxemborg and Liebnicht to death. There were some other Marxist uprisings in Germany following their defeat after world war 1.

[jbird4049]

Actually the "Liberal" Parties and the Socialists were marginalized by the Nazis and the Communists Parties. They actually worked together to destroy the Socialist Party. Tactics including riots, arson, beatings, and the occasional murder. In Berlin, there were large scale riots, or maybe better described as battles between the SA (Nazis Brownshirts/Street Thugs) and what ever the Communists equivalents were with the goal of destabilizing the national government.

Hitler sweet talked the conservative leadership of Big Business and Finance, along with the army's tacit support, to support him being Chancellor. He promised to be a good boy, and rein in the SA while they thought they could control him.

Well, Hitler did murder almost the entire SA leadership (without the bother of trials often) and sent the leadership and much of the members of both the Socialist and Communist Parties.

Of course, he kept on going with the murdering.

Did it not occur to you they had good cause to do so? The communists were dangerous people. They burned down the Reichstag, after all, and were caught plotting to overthrow the German government.

When marxists get that powerful, you seem to have two possibilities: communism or fascism. It depends upon who wins.

They both might still have lost, but the business elites support undercut the entire opposition to them.

The Nazis and the Communists arranged it that was the ostensibly the only real choices.
The were a number of conservative and liberal parties along with the Socialist Party, none of whom will as extremist or violent as the Nazis or the Communists. Both of which were trying to overthrow the duly elected government using violence against everyone who didn't support them. Other parties, newspapers, radio stations, polling places, the police, anybody and everything. The Nazis actually butchered their own people (the SA) so that they could get the conservative leadership help in subverted the electoral process.