The Fucking Thatcher Thread
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Yeah, yeah, I read Smitty's rant about society too. I just don't happen to agree with him.
Looking after ''society'' is how you prevent crumbling infrastructure, maintain adequate education and healthcare,provide security and keep the streets free from criminals etc...
Smitty would be the first to complain if his favourite roads were full of potholes.
Looking after ''society'' is how you prevent crumbling infrastructure, maintain adequate education and healthcare,provide security and keep the streets free from criminals etc...
Smitty would be the first to complain if his favourite roads were full of potholes.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Individuals and groups prevent crumbling infrastructure, maintain adequate education and healthcare, and keep the crime rate down, not some aggregate society.Montegriffo wrote:Yeah, yeah, I read Smitty's rant about society too. I just don't happen to agree with him.
Looking after ''society'' is how you prevent crumbling infrastructure, maintain adequate education and healthcare,provide security and keep the streets free from criminals etc...
Smitty would be the first to complain if his favourite roads were full of potholes.
You don't need to look out for the interests of a vague concept that doesn't really exist, to fix potholes, to teach kids, to provide health care and/or keep the crime rate down. Looking out for the interests of "society", will prevent government from adequately addressing the issues it's best at addressing, because they are too focused catering their service to a concept that is non-existent instead.
"Society" is just a vague feel good buzzword used to justify an ever expanding government, "for the good of society". Leftist circular reasoning.
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Yeah Smitty's argument sounds even more partizan when repeated by one of his apostles...
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Write off everyone with a different opinion as partisan. Typical.Montegriffo wrote:Yeah Smitty's argument sounds even more partizan when repeated by one of his apostles...
So do you have any real criticisms of Margaret Thatcher? Or do you pick your battles as poorly with her as you do with Trump?
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Dozens of them, all over the forum. As the only person here who lived through her regime I feel it's my place to provide the alternate view whenever there is a round of revering the Iron Lady (may she rust in peace).StCapps wrote: So do you have any real criticisms of Margaret Thatcher? Or do you pick your battles as poorly with her as you do with Trump?
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Well usually when I hear you chirping the Iron Lady, it seems to be a poorly picked battle. Perhaps in this thread you'll bring only your best anti-Thatcher arguments, instead of using the avalanche of shitty arguments to justify your dislike. If you have an alternative view, you might as well represent it as best you can, instead of being lazy and not doing it justice, especially in a Thatcher specific thread.Montegriffo wrote:Dozens of them, all over the forum. As the only person here who lived through her regime I feel it's my place to provide the alternate view whenever there is a round of revering the Iron Lady (may she rust in peace).StCapps wrote: So do you have any real criticisms of Margaret Thatcher? Or do you pick your battles as poorly with her as you do with Trump?
Now is your time to shine, dude who lived through it, enlighten us.....
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LOL
That thread where people were denying the reality of society, while engaging on a socially-funded global network, using a language that emerged from a particular social group in the British Isles, and so on? Much amusement from that one. No surprise capps doesn't understand what a society is either.
That thread where people were denying the reality of society, while engaging on a socially-funded global network, using a language that emerged from a particular social group in the British Isles, and so on? Much amusement from that one. No surprise capps doesn't understand what a society is either.
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Whatever anyone says on any subject you accuse them of fighting the wrong battles with poor arguments so I'll take that with a pinch of salt.StCapps wrote:Well usually when I hear you chirping the Iron Lady, it seems to be a poorly picked battle. Perhaps in this thread you'll bring only your best anti-Thatcher arguments, instead of using the avalanche of shitty arguments to justify your dislike. If you have an alternative view, you might as well represent it as best you can, instead of being lazy and not doing it justice, especially in a Thatcher specific thread.Montegriffo wrote:Dozens of them, all over the forum. As the only person here who lived through her regime I feel it's my place to provide the alternate view whenever there is a round of revering the Iron Lady (may she rust in peace).StCapps wrote: So do you have any real criticisms of Margaret Thatcher? Or do you pick your battles as poorly with her as you do with Trump?
Now is your time to shine, dude who lived through it, enlighten us.....
Main argument would be the massive unemployment caused by her destuction of the manufacturing, coal, steel and shipbuilding industries. All the things Krusty is desperate to prop up.
Then there was the selling off of the crown jewels on the cheap to her bankster buddies. Privatisation of all the money making utilities such as gas, water, electricity, telecoms, transport etc. These would all be earning big bucks for the exchequer now if still nationalised.
The lack of consensus government was her greatest weakness in the end. She sacked anyone who disagreed with her, her cabinet had more reshuffles than a Vegas weekend and eventually her ministers became sychophantic yes men too frightened to tell her when she was wrong.
All the best things she did such as taking power from the unions, reducing inflation and retaining the Falkland Islands were early on in her Premiership. By the end there were IRA bombings on the mainland, riots in the streets and massive protests everywhere.
Eventually the party had to stab her in the back or risk the real chance of a vote of no confidence and an election they could lose to a Kinnock lead Labour party ready to go back to early '70s Socialism. This is why I wanted Maggie out but was happy when John Major won the '92 general election keeping Kinnock out of power.
I await your reply with my ''Capps cliche'' bingo card at the ready.
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Back on the definition of society, I see. No need to make up your own definitions. One already exists.
so·ci·e·ty
səˈsīədē/Submit
noun
1.
the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
mid 16th century (in the sense ‘companionship, friendly association with others’): from French société, from Latin societas, from socius ‘companion.’
so·ci·e·ty
səˈsīədē/Submit
noun
1.
the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
mid 16th century (in the sense ‘companionship, friendly association with others’): from French société, from Latin societas, from socius ‘companion.’
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Montegriffo wrote:Yeah Smitty's argument sounds even more partizan when repeated by one of his apostles...
An apostle, but surely not a member of a mutual admiration “society”.
Because those don’t exist, they’re a dogmatic powertool of the left.
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