Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

That is the question? Are you kidding me?

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[Penner]

Thanks for collecting all those links... good Sunday reading.

I don't worry that businesses are going to be oppressed by the arbitrary whims of the government. I worry more that they will learn that they can hold the government hostage by saying 'give me tax breaks or cash infusions or else I will have to shut down plants and ship out jobs.' Of course, after they get their demands, they don't have keep up their end of the bargain because we really can't force them to keep plants open.

I hope it works, I really do, but if it only works temporarily because it is carried by the force of Trump's business acumen, well 4-8 years ain't enough time to fix all the problems of globalization forever. But, if it keeps people working and able to feed their families while carving out a decent life for themselves until we come up with better structural solutions, I am going to keep rooting for Trump to succeed.

Well, yeah, I really don't see Trump solving the problem of businesses moving out of the US. They have been doing this for at least 20+ years and will probably continue to do this. If they do stay then they are probably still going to cut their workforce and replace everyone by automation.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Well, yeah, I really don't see Trump solving the problem of businesses moving out of the US. They have been doing this for at least 20+ years and will probably continue to do this. If they do stay then they are probably still going to cut their workforce and replace everyone by automation.

This is why, long term, I think we need to consider profit sharing as a standard part of compensation for laborers. That way, the capital investment in automation will benefit them as well as the owners.

[StCapps]

This is why, long term, I think we need to consider profit sharing as a standard part of compensation for laborers. That way, the capital investment in automation will benefit them as well as the owners.

Employers aren't exactly barred from offering it to their employees should they choose to do so. What other incentives would you recommend to achieve the desired objective?

[Penner]

This is why, long term, I think we need to consider profit sharing as a standard part of compensation for laborers. That way, the capital investment in automation will benefit them as well as the owners.

Employers aren't exactly barred from offering it to their employees should they choose to do so. What other incentives would you recommend to achieve the desired objective?

I guess tax credits/breaks for businesses that hire and work in 100% American. Although, even that is probably not enough to stop automation and/or going overseas. At this point, most businesses are leaving because of a cheaper workforce and also cheaper productivity. Plus, they can pollutant as much as they want without worrying being fined. Which sucks because they will just hold our politics hostage because of this.

[Penner]

This is why, long term, I think we need to consider profit sharing as a standard part of compensation for laborers. That way, the capital investment in automation will benefit them as well as the owners.

Employers aren't exactly barred from offering it to their employees should they choose to do so. What other incentives would you recommend to achieve the desired objective?

I guess tax credits/breaks for businesses that hire 100% American and work in America. Although, even that is probably not enough to stop automation and/or going overseas. At this point, most businesses are leaving because of a cheaper workforce and also cheaper productivity costs. Plus, they can pollutant as much as they want without worrying being fined. Which sucks because they will just hold our politics hostage because of this.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

This is why, long term, I think we need to consider profit sharing as a standard part of compensation for laborers. That way, the capital investment in automation will benefit them as well as the owners.

Employers aren't exactly barred from offering it to their employees should they choose to do so. What other incentives would you recommend to achieve the desired objective?

I honestly can't think of anything else.

Profit sharing doesn't get us all the way to a post scarcity utopia or anything, but it seems like the fairest way to keep people in the economy as jobs are replaced.

I am just as suspicious of straight redistribution of wealth as the most die hard libertarian. Crony capitalism, in whatever form it takes, is also troubling. But all will probably have some part to play in making america great again... should that be possible.

[Paulo]

That is the question? Are you kidding me?

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What a silly response for a well known answer. When did that happened in favor of the people? So, let me see, hummmm never!.
I guess now that you have Trump, a billionaire that wants to do good for the people even if he loses money? C'mon.

As far as know, stating facts does not make one enjoying the suffering of another. And it's in the core of capitalism to make profits it does not matter how. The only way to improve the well being of the society or the workers, are in the realm of a more equal, less exploited, with more rights and maybe with a higher minimum wage.
Yes, that's the entire Trump platform.

[TheReal_ND]

What are you some kind of socialist?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

scha·den·freu·de
ˈSHädənˌfroidə/Submit
noun
pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.

What a silly response for a well known answer. When did that happened in favor of the people? So, let me see, hummmm never!.
I guess now that you have Trump, a billionaire that wants to do good for the people even if he loses money? C'mon.

Sorry Paulo, I was just needling you over your 'we've seen these lunatics in Brazil, now it is your turn' talk. Trust me, I've got my reservations too.

On a related note:

Case in point, the recent stories about Ford and Carrier keeping some parts of their manufacturing in the United States because Trump negotiated/bullied them into staying. If you tell that story through a political filter – which is all I have seen so far – you focus on the facts. In this case, the political story is that both the Ford and Carrier situations are exaggerated claims of success.

The political filter misses the story completely. As usual.

Here’s the real story. You need a business filter to see it clearly. In my corporate life I watched lots of new leaders replace old leaders. And there is one trick the good leaders do that bad leaders don’t: They make some IMMEDIATE improvement that everyone can see. It has to be visible, relatively simple, and fast.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1539058237 ... -and-trump