Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:47 pm

in actual fact, the Ukrainian army is right now the 5th largest in the world

behind only China, India, America & North Korea

the Russian army is in 6th place behind the Ukrainians now
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:08 pm

here's some civilian drone footage of Mariupol right now

as you can see, there are no people on the streets, there is no fighting on the ground

because the Russians are shelling it indiscriminately, Russian artillery detonations everywhere

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by TheOneX » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:10 pm

From my mostly uninformed perspective, I would say Russia is making very slow, but steady progress. The Ukrainings are putting up a hell of a fight, but ultimately are at best just holding the line. The likely outcome of the war is that Russia's army will have been exposed as incompetent, while still being able to claim victory.

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Post by Xenophon » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:12 pm

https://theamericansun.com/2022/03/14/b ... t-freedom/
Do any of you think this war would have happened without American, NATO and EU promises to Ukraine? But unlike you, we know those promises are empty. Ukraine can’t win against Russia, and your cheering on this war from safety, Zelensky’s knightly risking of the lives of others who are not even his people or nation, for his own profit and image; trannies in DC pushing Ukrainian civilians and grandmothers to engage Russian tanks and get massacred for maximum outrage PR—we find all this to be unspeakably loathsome. We would take this position even if we thought the Ukrainian cause was more just than Russia’s. Many of you talk about honor, defense of homeland and many such things, and I’ll take you at your word that you believe it. But there is no war of honor here, or any war at all. The Ukrainian “army” is hardly engaging the enemy even: the strategy is that of the “white helmets” of Syria, of the Palestinians of Gaza, of the fraud of Srebernica, or of the Holocaust industry in the West; the maximum display of civilian casualties, real or fabricated, for purposes of demonizing a political enemy. It’s Saddam cannibal soldiers eating babies in incubators again, or torching “a maternity ward” out of Hunnish sadism. I can’t reach people wound up by that sexualized hysteria, but I hope to reach some of you who have preserved some level of skepticism and aren’t hyperemotional spiritual femaels.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:17 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:10 pm
From my mostly uninformed perspective, I would say Russia is making very slow, but steady progress. The Ukrainings are putting up a hell of a fight, but ultimately are at best just holding the line. The likely outcome of the war is that Russia's army will have been exposed as incompetent, while still being able to claim victory.

I don't see how the Russians can take Kyiv unless the Ukrainians surrender

the Russians show no signs of being ready to go into Kyiv and fight street to street

if they can't take Kyiv and depose the government, then they can't even claim victory to their own side
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:24 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:08 pm
here's some civilian drone footage of Mariupol right now

as you can see, there are no people on the streets, there is no fighting on the ground

because the Russians are shelling it indiscriminately, Russian artillery detonations everywhere
The civilians are gone. The outskirts of the city have already been secured. The militia is waiting to engage. (I'm just repeating what I read. That may not even be Mariupol?)
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:24 pm

I'll tell you another thing

the maps they show on the MSM

with big areas of the country in red, as if the Russians are in control there

those are bullshit, the Russians have not even completed their day one of war objectives yet

the media is marking on the maps areas as being taken by the Russians, which are not taken

those are areas where Russian columns drove into perhaps

but many of those columns have been completely wiped out

the Russians have taken more casualties in two weeks here than they did over a decade in Afghanistan

this is a total catastrophe so far for the Russians, and they are not making progress at all right now
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:31 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:24 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:08 pm
here's some civilian drone footage of Mariupol right now

as you can see, there are no people on the streets, there is no fighting on the ground

because the Russians are shelling it indiscriminately, Russian artillery detonations everywhere
The civilians are gone. The outskirts of the city have already been secured. The militia is waiting to engage. (I'm just repeating what I read. That may not even be Mariupol?)
the civilians are not gone

anymore than you would be gone if this was America and you were defending your city

if the Russians flattening it with artillery because they were too scared to come in and fight you ?

what would you do ?

would you surrender ?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:31 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:24 pm
I'll tell you another thing

the maps they show on the MSM

with big areas of the country in red, as if the Russians are in control there

those are bullshit, the Russians have not even completed their day one of war objectives yet

the media is marking on the maps areas as being taken by the Russians, which are not taken

those are areas where Russian columns drove into perhaps

but many of those columns have been completely wiped out

the Russians have taken more casualties in two weeks here than they did over a decade in Afghanistan

this is a total catastrophe so far for the Russians, and they are not making progress at all right now
Like I asked: why would Ukraine even go to Israel? (Maybe they're not? I don't fukking know: everything's a lie.)
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:33 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:31 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:24 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:08 pm
here's some civilian drone footage of Mariupol right now

as you can see, there are no people on the streets, there is no fighting on the ground

because the Russians are shelling it indiscriminately, Russian artillery detonations everywhere
The civilians are gone. The outskirts of the city have already been secured. The militia is waiting to engage. (I'm just repeating what I read. That may not even be Mariupol?)
the civilians are not gone

anymore than you would be gone if this was America and you were defending your city

if the Russians flattening it with artillery because they were too scared to come in and fight you ?

what would you do ?

would you surrender ?
I read (maybe a lie) that in 2014, that city seceded from Ukraine for Russia's influence. (But since all things are lies, I don't know?) The people of that city SUPPOSEDLY hate Azov. (Again, maybe propaganda? It could be aliens.)
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