Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:30 am

they can't even subdue the Ukrainians

but they think they are ready to defeat the TRIAD ?

get a grip

don't drink the Russian psyop kool-aid
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:31 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:25 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:24 am
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We didn’t build triad to hold them completely hostage across the globe.
says who ?

that is exactly what the TRIAD is for, and why they fold anytime America brings it to bear

the Russians don't stand a chance and they know it

stop cowering
Ok. Why would we interfere and gamble the planet over a piece of Ukraine, when we didn’t do it over crimea or Georgia?

What’s so special about donbass?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:34 am

Peace Through Strength

the way to deal with Ivan

is to call his bluff

you get right up in his kitchen

you cock the hammer on the TRIAD

and you put it in his mouth

next thing you know, Gorbachev is coming to Reykjavik to capitulate
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SilverEagle » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:36 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:09 am
SilverEagle wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:00 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:38 am


here we go, on the road

twenty seventh, fired up

Here is why I think we’re going to war.
I hope I’m wrong but with all the machinations of international politics I think it’s getting to the point of a Gordian knot.
A new Reuters/Ipsos poll shows an overwhelming majority of Americans (74%) support establishing a no-fly zone over Ukraine
Putin said clearly that they declare as soon as we do that.

The planes don’t even get to Ukraine before birds launch.
We know that Putin said that but I feel as the snowball has been push from the top of the mountain and it is going to get out of control. Now if Russia just stops then major war will be avoided but from my understanding of Putin that has about a snowballs chance in hell of happening.

Have you seen the Putin Interviews? Gives you a really good scope of the man’s personality and mindset. He will not be backing down.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:38 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:34 am
Peace Through Strength

the way to deal with Ivan

is to call his bluff

you get right up in his kitchen

you cock the hammer on the TRIAD

and you put it in his mouth

next thing you know, Gorbachev is coming to Reykjavik to capitulate
Sounds like an overeager cop when somebody scratches his nose.

We do that if he threatens nato countries. But doing it randomly over third world nowhere doesn’t make any sense.

Especially when we didn’t do it the last 2 times.

The only reason we’re even sanctioning him is because thr DNC kleptocrats’ personal income is threatened.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:39 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:31 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:25 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:24 am
.

We didn’t build triad to hold them completely hostage across the globe.
says who ?

that is exactly what the TRIAD is for, and why they fold anytime America brings it to bear

the Russians don't stand a chance and they know it

stop cowering
Ok. Why would we interfere and gamble the planet over a piece of Ukraine, when we didn’t do it over crimea or Georgia?

What’s so special about donbass?
there is existential risk at all times

Balance of Terror at fifteen minutes notice to launch on warning

the Russians have crossed the Rubicon

Ukraine is just a proxy

this is a move against the CONUS itself, inherently, nuclear blackmail

not one step back

in fact, to maintain deterrence, at this point

you take a step towards them
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:40 am

SilverEagle wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:36 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:09 am
SilverEagle wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:00 am


Here is why I think we’re going to war.
I hope I’m wrong but with all the machinations of international politics I think it’s getting to the point of a Gordian knot.

Putin said clearly that they declare as soon as we do that.

The planes don’t even get to Ukraine before birds launch.
We know that Putin said that but I feel as the snowball has been push from the top of the mountain and it is going to get out of control. Now if Russia just stops then major war will be avoided but from my understanding of Putin that has about a snowballs chance in hell of happening.

Have you seen the Putin Interviews? Gives you a really good scope of the man’s personality and mindset. He will not be backing down.
He’s taking a big L and painting it as a win. Entirely expected.

All he gets is tiny buffer states and Ukraine legitimizing his taking of crimea. That’s a nothing burger.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:41 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:38 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:34 am
Peace Through Strength

the way to deal with Ivan

is to call his bluff

you get right up in his kitchen

you cock the hammer on the TRIAD

and you put it in his mouth

next thing you know, Gorbachev is coming to Reykjavik to capitulate
Sounds like an overeager cop when somebody scratches his nose.

We do that if he threatens nato countries. But doing it randomly over third world nowhere doesn’t make any sense.

Especially when we didn’t do it the last 2 times.

The only reason we’re even sanctioning him is because thr DNC kleptocrats’ personal income is threatened.
says who ?

some Millennial who learned everything he knows from the internet ?

I don't think you know how nuclear deterrence works

here's a hint, running away in the face of nuclear blackmail is a very bad strategy
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:47 am

when the Russian President openly and directly threatens America with nuclear war

that is no longer about Ukraine

that is a stated threat against the CONUS under effective wartime conditions

the Millennials may wish to run away and hide under their beds

but in the context of thermonuclear deterrence, the National Command Authority must not quail

Balance of Terror means what it says

when they take a step towards you, that is not the time to run away

that is the time to take a step towards them
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:48 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:41 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:38 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:34 am
Peace Through Strength

the way to deal with Ivan

is to call his bluff

you get right up in his kitchen

you cock the hammer on the TRIAD

and you put it in his mouth

next thing you know, Gorbachev is coming to Reykjavik to capitulate
Sounds like an overeager cop when somebody scratches his nose.

We do that if he threatens nato countries. But doing it randomly over third world nowhere doesn’t make any sense.

Especially when we didn’t do it the last 2 times.

The only reason we’re even sanctioning him is because thr DNC kleptocrats’ personal income is threatened.
says who ?

some Millennial who learned everything he knows from the internet ?

I don't think you know how nuclear deterrence works

here's a hint, running away in the face of nuclear blackmail is a very bad strategy
Either:

- NATO is a defensive alliance, and is to be invoked only on defense of allied countries

OR:

- NATO exists to bottle up and oppose Russia and will be invoked at random.
If that’s the case, then Putin is right, and we’re in the wrong.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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