The Era of Biden

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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by DBTrek » Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:58 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:52 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:15 pm
Jobless Americans will have few options as benefits expire Monday
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/joble ... 1630964021
If you are unemployed, have time on your hands and need money, what could you possibly do :think:

Few Options :lol:
Yup few options if you ignore how desperate most industries are to hire people.
More job openings in U.S. than unemployed Americans
https://dayton247now.com/news/local/mor ... -americans

Indeed.
Whatever can those poor souls do when unemployment benefits end?
It's a real fucking mystery.
If only someone had a solution.
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by DBTrek » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:36 pm

4 prisoners Obama exchanged for Bowe Berghdahl now in senior Taliban posts
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/4-pris ... iban-posts

Massively boosting the Taliban's military equipment wasn't enough.
We had to give them commanders too.
:doh:

We sat 20 years in that desert so the people we chased to the hills could be re-armed with superior weaponry, and return to preside over the nation again.
Great job, Biden and Obama.
Truly exceptional.

Glad I didn't go.
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by clubgop » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:51 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:36 pm
4 prisoners Obama exchanged for Bowe Berghdahl now in senior Taliban posts
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/4-pris ... iban-posts

Massively boosting the Taliban's military equipment wasn't enough.
We had to give them commanders too.
:doh:

We sat 20 years in that desert so the people we chased to the hills could be re-armed with superior weaponry, and return to preside over the nation again.
Great job, Biden and Obama.
Truly exceptional.

Glad I didn't go.
After 20 years who would have thought Iraq was the successful war.

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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by The Conservative » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:59 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:58 pm
TheOneX wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:52 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:15 pm
Jobless Americans will have few options as benefits expire Monday
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/joble ... 1630964021
If you are unemployed, have time on your hands and need money, what could you possibly do :think:

Few Options :lol:
Yup few options if you ignore how desperate most industries are to hire people.
More job openings in U.S. than unemployed Americans
https://dayton247now.com/news/local/mor ... -americans

Indeed.
Whatever can those poor souls do when unemployment benefits end?
It's a real fucking mystery.
If only someone had a solution.
People are getting tired of being paid bottom dollar for a job that shouldn't be...
#NotOneRedCent

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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by DBTrek » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:59 pm

I remember thinking at the time that a ground invasion of Afghanistan seemed extreme.
We just wanted to wipe a few camps, right?
OBL's little training sites had to go. We didn't have to physically secure the real estate of Afghanistan.

Why not cruise missiles and Reaper drones? Maybe some Spec Ops if necessary.

But instead, we occupied the place for two decades and allowed billions to simply vanish over there, no questions asked.

Whatever. No more terror attacks. Afghanistan was mostly complacent, no big body counts. Didn't really think about it much.

But now that we've pulled out, bulked up their military might, and put the very people we chased into the hills back in power - I'm back to thinking Cruise Missiles and Reaper drones was the answer.

I had it right the first time.
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by C-Mag » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:00 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:36 pm
4 prisoners Obama exchanged for Bowe Berghdahl now in senior Taliban posts
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/4-pris ... iban-posts

Massively boosting the Taliban's military equipment wasn't enough.
We had to give them commanders too.
:doh:

We sat 20 years in that desert so the people we chased to the hills could be re-armed with superior weaponry, and return to preside over the nation again.
Great job, Biden and Obama.
Truly exceptional.

Glad I didn't go.
The Taliban is now in official government to government talks with Russia, China, Turkey and others.

We were so succesful that Afghanistan is now stable, with a legitimate government and military :dance:
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:01 pm

clubgop wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:51 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:36 pm
4 prisoners Obama exchanged for Bowe Berghdahl now in senior Taliban posts
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/4-pris ... iban-posts

Massively boosting the Taliban's military equipment wasn't enough.
We had to give them commanders too.
:doh:

We sat 20 years in that desert so the people we chased to the hills could be re-armed with superior weaponry, and return to preside over the nation again.
Great job, Biden and Obama.
Truly exceptional.

Glad I didn't go.
After 20 years who would have thought Iraq was the successful war.
I actually put that theory forth on the DCF years ago, when Obama said that Afghanistan was the better war

it's not so much that Iraq was going to turn into what the Bushies wanted it to be

but there's just more to work with in Iraq, it's just a much more sophisticated country with a more substantial national identity

Iraq has oil, they have industry, they have an education system, it's vastly more than Afghanistan which is basically a wasteland

Iraq had its own nuclear program with the reactors to make the bombs, in Afghanistan the people can't even read
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:35 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:36 pm


Glad I didn't go.
thankfully Somalia had already demonstrated to me how absolutely corrupt & incompetent my military was

back in the 80's I was a gung-ho Cold Warrior

but after Somalia I had all my illusions about it shattered

by the time Afghanistan came around I had already written the military off as not worth serving in anymore

there's a guy on the Canadian forum from my unit who did multiple tours in Afghanistan

now he says it was a complete waste and he agrees with me, the Canadian military should be disbanded to save it from itself

I just got to that point back in 1999, while it took another decade for him to come around
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:44 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:59 pm
I remember thinking at the time that a ground invasion of Afghanistan seemed extreme.
I remember thinking "isn't this just Somalia on steroids ?"

Black Hawk Down on a grander scale

soon after the invasion in 2002 two guys I knew drove over an IED in a jeep and got blown up in Kabul

that pretty much confirmed it, this was not going to go well, and the army was totally unprepared for it

they've been told it's going to be like a "Peacekeeping" mission, but already it was clear that they were in over their heads
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:30 pm

my old battalion really only got in one big battle in the whole 12 years of rotations

that was Operation Medusa in the late summer of 2006

but both my old Section Commander & my old Platoon Warrant, were killed within minutes of each other

and it was both for the same reason, which was tha lack of proper equipment, particularly effective armoured vehicles

they were both super soldiers, the best of the best, years of developing them into that

one was killed in a jeep by an RPG-7 through the window because there wasn't enough armoured vehicles to go around

the other was killed advancing on foot by another RPG-7, because the cheap wheeled armoured vehicles couldn't cross the grape fields

so it was one after another, guys getting killed; not because the Taliban were so great, just because Canada was too cheap to provide kit

at which point, I pretty much wrote Canada itself off : why would I support a country which treated its troops this pathetically ?

they were so poorly equipped, in their "Peacekeeping" mode with jeeps & armoured cars, so they couldn't even handle the Taliban

lightly armed goat herders with AK's & RPG's handed a Canadian NATO battlegroup a humiliating defeat

it was just like Mogadishu, where the troops are getting cut to pieces because the force was too lightly equipped
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