Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 pm

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Slavs are a disorganized mess for the foreseeable future. I can’t even identify any common cultural themes in the group - though that’s likely a legacy of Stalin.

The reason the Slavs will dominate the future is they are the only ones that can pick up the mantle of the Western world and carry it forward. And Western culture is the dominant global culture for the last 2500 years. I have no reason to believe that will change.

The Slavs had their interlude with the evils of Marxism and have rejected it. Who better to resist the Marxist suicide pact of the old Western World.

Additionally they are keeping their birth rate up, maintaining traditional values and rejecting globohomo wokeness.

The future is Slavic.
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 pm

the future is not Slavic, because the Slavs are bottled up on land in Eurasia

they don't have the seapower to dominate

the Russian navy is the most powerful, and it is collapsing, they can't even build major warships anymore

the contest is, as usual, between the dominant sea powers, which is America & China

after America & China, the next most dominant seapower is India, sitting astride the Indian ocean

even Japan & South Korea are leaving the Russians in the dust

the Russian GDP is $1.7 trillion, that's the size of Canada's economy, they're a tiny player in the empire game
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:34 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 pm
the future is not Slavic, because the Slavs are bottled up on land in Eurasia

they don't have the seapower to dominate

the Russian navy is the most powerful, and it is collapsing, they can't even build major warships anymore

the contest is, as usual, between the dominant sea powers, which is America & China

after America & China, the next most dominant seapower is India, sitting astride the Indian ocean

even Japan & South Korea are leaving the Russians in the dust
Decent argument.

I'll counter by saying China is more bottled up than the Slavic world. Then have 5000 miles of ocean to pass.

The Americans will be in the mix for the next century, but will cede its leadership, as the Crown ceded its leadership to the USA.
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:36 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:34 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:20 pm
the future is not Slavic, because the Slavs are bottled up on land in Eurasia

they don't have the seapower to dominate

the Russian navy is the most powerful, and it is collapsing, they can't even build major warships anymore

the contest is, as usual, between the dominant sea powers, which is America & China

after America & China, the next most dominant seapower is India, sitting astride the Indian ocean

even Japan & South Korea are leaving the Russians in the dust
Decent argument.

I'll counter by saying China is more bottled up than the Slavic world. Then have 5000 miles of ocean to pass.

The Americans will be in the mix for the next century, but will cede its leadership, as the Crown ceded its leadership to the USA.
I don't think the future is Chinese neither

they are trying to break out of the China seas

but they have too many seapowers blocking them, not just America, India, Japan, South Korea, the whole Pacific Rim is against them

I think the future is still American, it's just a question of whether that will be an American republic or not
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:41 pm

Very well could be.

America has all the advantages, ole boys conquered the most strategic land on the planet. Plus resource rich and great transportation.
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:42 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:41 pm
Very well could be.

America has all the advantages, ole boys conquered the most strategic land on the planet. Plus resource rich and great transportation.
Indeed. The two oceans have propped us up for a long time now.
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:43 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:41 pm
Very well could be.

America has all the advantages, ole boys conquered the most strategic land on the planet. Plus resource rich and great transportation.
America has the most critical advantage

no significant threats on America's borders

total access to the seas, Atlantic to Pacific

the fight is really internal to America

is the republic going to survive, or will Washington become an increasingly evil empire unto itself ?
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:00 pm

bear in mind that becoming an empire did not bring Rome down

Rome ruled for another 500 years as an empire

then another 1000 years as Byzantium

the thing that saved Rome in the end, was Christ

but it took 300 years for that to come about
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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:07 pm

Good talk.

I'm done on the topic.

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Re: Common Sense 322 - Betting on Long Shots

Post by DrYouth » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:14 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:36 pm
I think the future is still American, it's just a question of whether that will be an American republic or not
American republic?

So you mean there will be two consuls and a senate.

Back to before Cesar....


I mean... can we go that far back?

How would it happen?


The natural gravity would be towards dictator.... rather than republic.
It would be hard to skip over that step.

Cross back over the Rubicon?
Hasn't been done.
Not to say it would be impossible.
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