The Era of Biden

[SuburbanFarmer]

First strike is irrelevant unless you can take out 100% of the nukes. Whatever we have left would be glassing half the globe in response.

Cold War silliness.

[Smitty-48]

I don't think it will even be clear who struck America when it comes

in order for MAD to work, you have to know who hit you from where

it's not going to be clear, just like 9-11

it's going to come out of the blue from an unexpected vector, covert and asymmetrical

if someone pops a multimegaton nuclear torpedo up the Potomac

there is no track as to where that came from, nor who launched the attack'

furthermore, the people in command would all be dead, or out of contact

[Smitty-48]

it's not going to be like the movies

it's not going to be The Day After nor War Games

this is a whole new Cold War

you won't know where it came from

you won't know who attacked you

you might fly off the handle like after 9-11, but that will just escalate things from there

[Smitty-48]

First strike is irrelevant unless you can take out 100% of the nukes. Whatever we have left would be glassing half the globe in response.

Cold War silliness.

you're the one stuck in the first Cold War, with your confidence in bipolar MAD

this is not that war anymore, the attack will be covert, asymmetrical and by proxy

you won't have any targets to retaliate against, because you won't know who hit you from where

maybe it is a Pakistani nuke, but it could be terrorists delivering it by sea container

[Smitty-48]

bear in mind, just like 9-11, the enemy doesn't have to shower you with ICBMs

just one nuke, in any city, is enough, for America to implode

just one nuke, is enough to destabilize America into total chaos

just one nuke is all they need, and they won't be sending it by ICBM

doesn't even have to be a big nuke, a one kiloton suitcase nuke would do the job

like what happens if a one kiloton suitcase nuke goes off in Manhattan tomorrow ?

how fucking crazy would things in America get, by the next morning ?

[The Conservative]

Everyone knew my views here... we go back in, we go in scorched earth policy. No POWs... and we leave the corpses where they fall.

the Taliban is about to kill all the weak links in Afghanistan

no need to get involved, let them do the killing for you

That's the problem. The weak shall fall, the strong will survive, and in turn, become a thorn in our side.

[The Conservative]

like if TC wants to glass somebody for 9-11

drop the nukes on Pakistan

just be advised that they have submarines with nuclear cruise missiles

so they could retaliate, survivable second strike

Pakistan wouldn't need to be nuked... and if it had to, I am sure one of their own would do it for us.

[Smitty-48]

Everyone knew my views here... we go back in, we go in scorched earth policy. No POWs... and we leave the corpses where they fall.

the Taliban is about to kill all the weak links in Afghanistan

no need to get involved, let them do the killing for you

That's the problem. The weak shall fall, the strong will survive, and in turn, become a thorn in our side.

the Taliban weren't bothering you before, I'm not expecting them to bother you now

in actual fact, I expect the Taliban to become America's proxies once again

America will make peace with them, then pay them to fight ISIS

[C-Mag]

Biden speaking, disavows nation building. Says it was never part of the mission.

Talks about Trump drawdown.

Admits Afghanistan collapsed blames Afghan leadership, and Afghan military.

Says Afghanistan not worth fighting for.

But says Syria and other wars are worth it

[C-Mag]

Joe suddenly says forever wars are a mistake.