Current US Military

[Smitty-48]

OK Yeah, let's go with that.

point to where I have attacked you personally, I don't know what you are referring to

[SuburbanFarmer]

there is infighting in the senior ranks going on up here in Canada

the General's are throwing each under the bus to save their own necks

but you can't say that sort of thing in the military, that's insubordination & sedition on the face

you wouldn't get fired for that, you'd be court martialed for that, sent to the stockade

seems to me that C-mag & Grumpy are not so interested in informing as they in whipping up hysteria

what is this, MHFAnon ? It's just one bullshit clickbait post after the next

I responded with disbelief. Your desperation is showing.

[Smitty-48]

there is infighting in the senior ranks going on up here in Canada

the General's are throwing each under the bus to save their own necks

but you can't say that sort of thing in the military, that's insubordination & sedition on the face

you wouldn't get fired for that, you'd be court martialed for that, sent to the stockade

seems to me that C-mag & Grumpy are not so interested in informing as they in whipping up hysteria

what is this, MHFAnon ? It's just one bullshit clickbait post after the next

I responded with disbelief. Your desperation is showing.

it's an internet forum, I've been on them for years, this is how it works, I'm quite sure

[SuburbanFarmer]

Begging the Taliban for mercy.

https://news.antiwar.com/2021/08/12/us- ... ul-battle/

[Smitty-48]

Begging the Taliban for mercy.

https://news.antiwar.com/2021/08/12/us- ... ul-battle/

according to AntiWar.com

"begging" seems to be leftist propaganda

just running America down for its own sake, piling on with leftist America hating glee

[Smitty-48]

I don't pile on America for conducting a strategic withdrawal from Afghanistan

we all knew back in 2001 that the Bushies were tilting at windmills there

we all knew this would be the final result, probably after twenty years or so

I did lose friends in the deserts of Afghanistan

most of all my bosses Frank Mellish & Rick Nolan

Warrant Nolan was killed in the opening engagement, RPG-7 through the window of his G-Wagen

then Warrant Mellish went into the storm, to recover the remains of his best friend Rick

Frank was cut down by the shrapnel of another RPG-7 deflecting off an armoured backhoe

but they were professional soldiers reaching the pinnacle of their profession

and they did their duty as per the Washington Treaty

so I don't see that as defeat, that's mission accomplished

that the misguided war was an ultimate failure, doesn't detract from the valour

there is no call to run the personnel down as "begging", that's not the nature of the withdrawal

[SuburbanFarmer]

No personnel are mentioned, other than official diplomatic communication.

Do you even read stuff, or just share your feels?

[Smitty-48]

or just share your feels?

I certainly share my feels

now at the end of the war, I look back and feel things about it

for instance, the one that hurts the most, is Corporal Ainsworth Dyer

because he was a kid from my hood, I knew him growing up

he is buried at the cemetery just a block away from where I lived

I was in the honour guard at his funeral, laying him to rest

whenever I go back to the hood, I always go to his grave, just to honour him

he is buried in a beautiful place, pride of place at the Toronto Necropolis in Cabbagetown

and I personally recruited him to the regiment

I personnally trained him as his insructor at recruit depot

he is perhaps my greatest student, the best soldier I ever knew

he was killed at Tarnak Farms, Blue on Blue by a GBU-12 dropped from an F-16

before he deployed, I said to him, you know this is bullshit, right ?

America is in shock after the Towers fell in front of them, they're not thinking straight

he said he just wanted to deploy, this is what he trained for, the politics were irrelevant

after Ainsworth was killed, his father then committed suicide, couldn't bear the grief

that is the sort of thing that comes to mind now, at the end of the war

[Smitty-48]

bear in mind I don't bear any ill will towards that USAF F-16 pilot

I understand what happened there

he saw the signature of an 84mm Carl Gustav Recoilles Rifle

he thought that was a MANPADS being launched at him

so he fired in what he thought was self defense

the Canadians were using Tarnak Farms as a range, they were conducting field live fire in theater

he was never told, he wasn't expecting allied forces to be there, breakdown in communications

[SuburbanFarmer]

Brutal. I don’t understand the desire to ‘just deploy’, but the story is a tragic one indeed.

One of a great many, over 20 years of the MIC at play.