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The last 5 pages have been nothing but rubbish, typical "get off my lawn" old man crap. Popular music is at the whims of the suits and producers in power. Gen-X was generally crap because the powers that be were greedy Boomers who made business and production decisions based on scientific research that showed doing certain things causes more records to be sold. That is why music starting in the 1990's became "louder" and sound the same. Prior to then the powers that be were not aware of these psychological effects, allowing for musicians to have more freedom to differentiate themselves, or try something new and different. Bohemian Rhapsody would never be allowed to be made today for this exact reason. It is too different, not loud enough, would never sell. That is why the music industry peaked in the 60's through the 80's.

Gen-X suits and producers are mostly just following in the trend the Boomers set, so Millennial music is equally crap as Gen-X music. The only hope we have is that the internet in recent years is starting to expose these tactics being used, and opening up new channels of distribution that are not reliant on the record labels. Unfortunately, when someone with a "new" or "unique" sound gets some popularity the record industry is quick to monetize it and water it down.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:34 am
Smitty-48 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:26 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:23 am Every generation builds on what came before them. The good and the bad.
but the Boomers were happy, and we Gen Xers were happy, nobody wanted to burn it all down

the Millennials are the first generation to be so angry they want to blow everything up
Tell it to the weather underground.
the Boomers voted for Ronald Reagan in the face of that, the Weather Underground was the lunatic fringe
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:34 am The 20 somethings that are all rioting right now? Gen Z.
Nah, if they are 20 something they are Millenials. The oldest Gen Zers are just turned 20 last year. The Millennial generation is considered to be from the early 80's to 2000.
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TheOneX wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:39 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:34 am The 20 somethings that are all rioting right now? Gen Z.
Nah, if they are 20 something they are Millenials. The oldest Gen Zers are just turned 20 last year. The Millennial generation is considered to be from the early 80's to 2000.
Gen Zoomer is already becoming anti-Millennial, they already heap scorn on everything Millennial

the Tik Tokkers are into Disco 2.0
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Smitty-48 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:38 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:34 am
Smitty-48 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:26 am

but the Boomers were happy, and we Gen Xers were happy, nobody wanted to burn it all down

the Millennials are the first generation to be so angry they want to blow everything up
Tell it to the weather underground.
the Boomers voted for Ronald Reagan in the face of that, the Weather Underground was the lunatic fringe
Always excuses from the lazy, slacker, gen xer. Take some responsibility for once in your slacker life. Gen X made the boomer 'blow it up' fringe mainstream. It is one of the problems we, hard working and creative millennials need to solve. Your godamn gen z kids aren't helping neither.
HAIL!

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TheOneX wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:39 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:34 am The 20 somethings that are all rioting right now? Gen Z.
Nah, if they are 20 something they are Millenials. The oldest Gen Zers are just turned 20 last year. The Millennial generation is considered to be from the early 80's to 2000.
Yeah. I'm seeing a lot of 16 to 20 year olds rioting and shouting at their elders. Gen Z. Gen Xs trash children.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:41 am
Smitty-48 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:38 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:34 am

Tell it to the weather underground.
the Boomers voted for Ronald Reagan in the face of that, the Weather Underground was the lunatic fringe
Always excuses from the lazy, slacker, gen xer. Take some responsibility for once in your slacker life. Gen X made the boomer 'blow it up' fringe mainstream. It is one of the problems we, hard working and creative millennials need to solve. Your godamn gen z kids aren't helping neither.
I will take mea culpa on being a slacker, but as I am a hedonist, I don't see it as a vice

the way I took responsibility for my slacker lifestyle was to serve at the sharp end in the military

I concentrated all of my efforts into extreme hard work & creativity

so then I could retire to kick back and enjoy the rest of my days

the Boomers retired into luxury, I don't see why I have to self flagellate just for living the American dream
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TheOneX wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:35 am The last 5 pages have been nothing but rubbish, typical "get off my lawn" old man crap. Popular music is at the whims of the suits and producers in power. Gen-X was generally crap because the powers that be were greedy Boomers who made business and production decisions based on scientific research that showed doing certain things causes more records to be sold. That is why music starting in the 1990's became "louder" and sound the same. Prior to then the powers that be were not aware of these psychological effects, allowing for musicians to have more freedom to differentiate themselves, or try something new and different. Bohemian Rhapsody would never be allowed to be made today for this exact reason. It is too different, not loud enough, would never sell. That is why the music industry peaked in the 60's through the 80's.

Gen-X suits and producers are mostly just following in the trend the Boomers set, so Millennial music is equally crap as Gen-X music. The only hope we have is that the internet in recent years is starting to expose these tactics being used, and opening up new channels of distribution that are not reliant on the record labels. Unfortunately, when someone with a "new" or "unique" sound gets some popularity the record industry is quick to monetize it and water it down.
Music is louder because the Fletcher-Munson effect is real, and the technology improvements in the 90s and 2000s made it easier to get more volume in production. Mostly improvements with digital limiters, noise gates, and compressors. Plus, high quality microphones dropped in value, and got used for every track, instead of just the vox.

Zep and Sabbath tried to mix as loud as they could, and would have been louder if the tech allowed it.

The loudness wars of 90s production are a technology problem, not a taste or corporate problem.

That is just some science, straight from God's mouth to your ears. You're welcome.
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Smitty-48 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:46 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:41 am
Smitty-48 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:38 am

the Boomers voted for Ronald Reagan in the face of that, the Weather Underground was the lunatic fringe
Always excuses from the lazy, slacker, gen xer. Take some responsibility for once in your slacker life. Gen X made the boomer 'blow it up' fringe mainstream. It is one of the problems we, hard working and creative millennials need to solve. Your godamn gen z kids aren't helping neither.
I will take mea culpa on being a slacker, but as I am a hedonist, I don't see it as a vice

the way I took responsibility for my slacker lifestyle was to serve at the sharp end in the military

I concentrated all of my efforts into extreme hard work & creativity

so then I could retire to kick back and enjoy the rest of my days

the Boomers retired into luxury, I don't see why I have to self flagellate just for living the American dream
You don't have to flagellate. My generation is happy for your generation, and it gives us hope to see that a bunch of useless slackers can retire comfortably. Since we are creative, hard workers - I'm sure we will do the same.

But - you are slackers, loads of you wanted to 'blow it up,' and your music sucked.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:50 am
But - you are slackers, loads of you wanted to 'blow it up,' and your music sucked.
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