The flight to quality has nothing to do with manufacturing, China can't steal it that way, try againSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:15 amPart of the shift into first-world economy. They have a shitty house in the neighborhood, so they just make the whole neighborhood shittier.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:11 amThe manufacturing center of the world does not give you a flight to quality, manufacturing is now low grade workSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:09 am
Not so much. They’re positioned as the manufacturing center of the world. If the rest of the worlds dollars are worth less, then their goods are worth more. Their workers’ pay is worth more, and their purchasing power is higher.
Whatever they have stashed in foreign debt is not consequential to their manufacturing power.
It's the Information Age,
Information is now the most valuable commodity on earth, the value of labor is collapsing
The Chinese even offshore manufacturing work to Mexico now
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They are pegged to the dollar, and without the US consumer they ain't the manufacturing power either. If they don't hyperinflate to keep pace with the US, then they lose their manfacturing, and that's all they fucking have. However hard the US gets hit it hurts China even more. There is no way for China to seize power by wrecking the US economy, just the opposite, the only for China to maintain power is dependency on the America, if America goes, they go with them.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:09 amNot so much. They’re positioned as the manufacturing center of the world. If the rest of the worlds dollars are worth less, then their goods are worth more. Their workers’ pay is worth more, and their purchasing power is higher.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:06 amChina's wealth is not its own, it's all in foreign currency, hyperinflation takes them down tooSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:01 am
End game would be to watch the collapse of the dollar into hyper-inflation, and gain economic dominance as the ‘safe harbor’. We’re doing a fantastic job of destroying ourselves with money printing.
Just a hypothesis, not a strong belief. I’m positing the possibility that if those sick clowns are really playing they long game’, this would be how to win it.
More importantly, the government could use it as casus belli. I’m certain that I’m not the only one with this idea.
Whatever they have stashed in foreign debt is not consequential to their manufacturing power.
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The only reason people to go to China is to access all the US dollars, Euros and Yens they are sitting on
If the Western World currencies collapse, that takes China down too
An attack is killing their best and richest customers, it makes no sense
If the Western World currencies collapse, that takes China down too
An attack is killing their best and richest customers, it makes no sense
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In actual fact, China has the same casus belli as America
The only reason to go to war would be a naval blockade against freedom of navigation on the high seas
The only reason to go to war would be a naval blockade against freedom of navigation on the high seas
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America Derangement Syndrome is a helluva a drug, it can cause you to see 10 foot tall Chinese monsters that don't even exist.
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America is afraid that China might use their A2AD to blockade us
China is afraid that we will use the US Navy to blockade them
As always, the casus belli of the Hegemon's is naval blockade
The fur doesn't fly unless and until somebody puts a torpedo under a keel
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The First World War doesn't become a world war until it becomes a naval war against Britannia
The Second World War doesn't become a world war until it becomes a naval war against Anglo-America
The Hegemons are Seapowers
Hegemonic war is fought on the High Seas
The Second World War doesn't become a world war until it becomes a naval war against Anglo-America
The Hegemons are Seapowers
Hegemonic war is fought on the High Seas
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Those customers don’t go anywhere. They just have to pay up for Chinese goods. They’ve already savaged their own manufacturing, to save money.
Also, I don’t know where you got the idea that yuan is pegged to anything. One of Trumps biggest complaints was that they manipulate currency values freely. The yuan is pegged to the whim of the CCP.
So if I’m the CCP, I just enjoy the collapse, and start offering loans/buying bonds whenever they’re available. My currency goes out into the world worth less, and comes back as a premium paper.
If I’m really going nuclear, I just hint that container ship crews are nervous about visiting foreign ports.
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The purpose of your surface fleet is to escort your cargo on the High Seas
The purpose of your submarines it to give your surface fleet freedom of navigation
The purpose of the aircraft carrier is to give your surface fleet air cover away from shore
The fur doesn't fly until somebody tries to blockade all that
The purpose of your submarines it to give your surface fleet freedom of navigation
The purpose of the aircraft carrier is to give your surface fleet air cover away from shore
The fur doesn't fly until somebody tries to blockade all that
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