Taxation without representation, home ownership and other forms of taxes.

[Smitty-48]

I didn't say cut military spending, if anything ratchet that up. Cut that other shit that is a drag on the economy instead, cut tariffs, don't raise them.

Doesn't matter what you say right now.

Decadent Roaring Twenties Free Money Party.

The Grapes of Wrath have to come.

Then they'll do the wrong things and it will backfire.

That will destabilize the global strategic situation.

Then we'll get to Spartan UBI again.

Obviously they are going to do stupid shit that will backfire, I'm just saying if they were smart they'd skip over that part, and stop making the same mistakes over and over again.

Can't skip over any parts.

It's a collective which is learning.

It has to go through the process, it won't skip a step, it can't be proactive, only reactionary.

It's not a person, it doesn't have a memory, only lives in the present.

[StCapps]

Doesn't matter what you say right now.

Decadent Roaring Twenties Free Money Party.

The Grapes of Wrath have to come.

Then they'll do the wrong things and it will backfire.

That will destabilize the global strategic situation.

Then we'll get to Spartan UBI again.

Obviously they are going to do stupid shit that will backfire, I'm just saying if they were smart they'd skip over that part, and stop making the same mistakes over and over again.

Can't skip over any parts.

It's a collective which is learning.

It has to go through the process, it won't skip a step, it can't be proactive, only reactionary.

It's not a person, it doesn't have a memory, only lives in the present.

Indeed, Collective Goldfish Memory For The Fail. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[Smitty-48]

Obviously they are going to do stupid shit that will backfire, I'm just saying if they were smart they'd skip over that part, and stop making the same mistakes over and over again.

Can't skip over any parts.

It's a collective which is learning.

It has to go through the process, it won't skip a step, it can't be proactive, only reactionary.

It's not a person, it doesn't have a memory, only lives in the present.

Indeed, Collective Goldfish Memory For The Fail. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Everything comes around again.

It all goes on a cycle.

America is a religion.

All you need is faith.

And capital.

[brewster]

You guys really are retarded. Shitting on Milton Friedman and pretending the laffer curve isn't a thing. Absolute morons.

Attracting more wealth to your state via low taxes and thus having a larger pool of wealth to tax from, working better than high taxes with wealth fleeing your state, is just fucking plain as day. That is how build an economy, economic growth leads to more revenue than raising taxes, especially in the long run.

FL is the only exception to your theory being nonsense, and FL brings in bookoo retirement money from the wealthy states. TX is not really a low tax state, about the same as WA & OR. The most vibrant state economies outside of boom and bust drilling like ND are the high tax coastal states. Kansas tried cutting taxes and fucked their state royally without making their economy boom. Perfect case of failure, but ideologues like to forget it. And austerity fucked over Europe while spending got us out of the great recession. But fact free ideology ignores what actually works in favor of what 'feelz right'. Spending on weapons instead of infrastructure is more crony capitalism masquerading as patriotism. Lockheed knows how to buy congressmen wholesale.

[StCapps]

You guys really are retarded. Shitting on Milton Friedman and pretending the laffer curve isn't a thing. Absolute morons.

Attracting more wealth to your state via low taxes and thus having a larger pool of wealth to tax from, working better than high taxes with wealth fleeing your state, is just fucking plain as day. That is how build an economy, economic growth leads to more revenue than raising taxes, especially in the long run.

FL is the only exception to your theory being nonsense, and FL brings in bookoo retirement money from the wealthy states. TX is not really a low tax state, about the same as WA & OR. The most vibrant state economies outside of boom and bust drilling like ND are the high tax coastal states. Kansas tried cutting taxes and fucked their state royally without making their economy boom. Perfect case of failure, but ideologues like to forget it. And austerity fucked over Europe while spending got us out of the great recession. But fact free ideology ignores what actually works in favor of what 'feelz right'. Spending on weapons instead of infrastructure is more crony capitalism masquerading as patriotism. Lockheed knows how to buy congressmen wholesale.

It brings in retirement money because of the low taxes and weather, it's not a coincidence. Spending didn't get you out of the Great Recession, it prolonged it, low interest rates is what got you out of it, and those chickens will come home to roost. Federal Infrastructure spending is always a boondoggle, even during the times it works better than others, the weapons actually do more for the economy, talk about ignoring the facts in favor of what "feelz right", physician heal thyself and stop projecting your own faults on others.

Low tax coastal states are growing faster than high tax coastal states, it's not the high taxes that is fueling the economy, it's the geographical location. The coastal states could be doing better without the high taxes, see Florida, and the same goes for landlocked states as well. Federal dollars should go towards the military, the states and localities can handle the infrastructure spending, subsidiarity ftw.

[Zlaxer]

Works for Florida and Texas.
/shrugs

New York and California are not the tax rate models to follow, that I can tell you.

Re-read what I wrote.

Driving the industries away that unions pre-dominate in is good for unions? No it isn't. Having less funds because of overly high tax rates is good for the public services lefties love so much? No it isn't.

Let’s try it one more time...go back and critically read my post.

[StCapps]

Re-read what I wrote.

Driving the industries away that unions pre-dominate in is good for unions? No it isn't. Having less funds because of overly high tax rates is good for the public services lefties love so much? No it isn't.

Let’s try it one more time...go back and critically read my post.

How about you rephrase your post, because clearly your point was not very clear.
/shrugs

[Zlaxer]

Driving the industries away that unions pre-dominate in is good for unions? No it isn't. Having less funds because of overly high tax rates is good for the public services lefties love so much? No it isn't.

Let’s try it one more time...go back and critically read my post.

How about you rephrase your post, because clearly your point was not very clear.
/shrugs

Real simple dude - you proffered that high tax states should lower taxes - I laughed at that bc everyone knows those states are controlled by leftists / unions who will never change - thus, the train, i.e., the state economies, will go over the cliff, i.e., crash. There’s no hope for those states, they’re in a death spiral and the leftist are either too greedy to stop it or want the crash to occur in order to create chaos and an opportunity to usher in Socialist Utopia.

[Zlaxer]

I don’t think you grasp the nature of the conflict occurring in Amerkia.

[StCapps]

I never said they were going to follow my advice, I just said it would benefit them if they did. I don't think you grasp the nature of America, it's light years ahead of the competition and you think the sky is falling.