If you destabilize a country for no apparent reason, how does that make you a good statesman? I would view results as being a far more important determining factor than appearances. Also, Obama cucked hard on China the same way Chamberlain cucked on Germany.
The verdict: Obama was not a great Statesman, but he was a good reality tv star and ex Goldman Sachs affirmative action hirer.
Statesman - a great orator, who represents his interests clearly, makes logical arguments.
Your mileage may vary. There may be a better word for it, but I’d consider that a statesman.
Its kind of funny, Trump's 2 years have been more pacifistic than just about any other president's of the last decade and a half. Obama drone stricked half of central Asia and Arabian Penninsula and completely destabilized Libya (right after we made the same mistake in Iraq) and he is praised for his levelheadedness and great leadership. Trump says boorish things (that are actually funny) and suddenly it is the end of the world.
I wouldn't say more pacifistic, I take your point but drone strikes have increased since Trump took over. Seems to me that he gave the military and CIA free reign to bomb the shit out of ISIS for awhile, and now he is withdrawing some of the military presence in an apparent victory. I would know more about the specifics but Smitty stopped posting.
Also didn't we already spend a few pages debating whether or not Obama was a statesman?
If you destabilize a country for no apparent reason, how does that make you a good statesman? I would view results as being a far more important determining factor than appearances. Also, Obama cucked hard on China the same way Chamberlain cucked on Germany.
The verdict: Obama was not a great Statesman, but he was a good reality tv star and ex Goldman Sachs affirmative action hirer.
Statesman - a great orator, who represents his interests clearly, makes logical arguments.
Your mileage may vary. There may be a better word for it, but I’d consider that a statesman.
There you go move those goalpost. You said dignified last time and then got caught blowing a homeless person on that so now you change it to the that. It's ok, just admit I got you pegged as a hack bitch and Barack Obama made you moist. It's the truth and it will set you free.
Its kind of funny, Trump's 2 years have been more pacifistic than just about any other president's of the last decade and a half. Obama drone stricked half of central Asia and Arabian Penninsula and completely destabilized Libya (right after we made the same mistake in Iraq) and he is praised for his levelheadedness and great leadership. Trump says boorish things (that are actually funny) and suddenly it is the end of the world.
I wouldn't say more pacifistic, I take your point but drone strikes have increased since Trump took over. Seems to me that he gave the military and CIA free reign to bomb the shit out of ISIS for awhile, and now he is withdrawing some of the military presence in an apparent victory. I would know more about the specifics but Smitty stopped posting.
Also didn't we already spend a few pages debating whether or not Obama was a statesman?
When the Pentagon announced last November that it was ceasing aerial refueling of Saud-led coalition aircraft operating in Yemen, the move appeared to be a major step back from U.S. support for the war there. But newly obtained documents reveal that the United States has also been training coalition military personnel from the United Arab Emirates for the air war in Yemen.
The documents underscore the continuing frustrations for critics of the war, including those in Congress, over the lack of transparency around U.S. military support for a war that has killed thousands of civilians and pushed the country to the brink of famine.
The U.N. Development Program (UNDP) has released a report on the effects of the war on Yemen, including the long-term effects on the country’s future development. This comes from the start of the report’s executive summary:
The ongoing conflict has further reduced the pace of development. The impacts of conflict in Yemen are devastating—with nearly a quarter of a million people killed directly by fighting and indirectly through lack of access to food, health services, and infrastructure. Of the dead, 60 per cent are children under the age of five. The long-term impacts of conflict are vast and place it among the most destructive conflicts since the end of the Cold War. The conflict has already set back human development by 21 years. If the conflict were to end in 2022, development would be set back 26 years—over one generation.
The report is the most comprehensive assessment yet of what the people of Yemen have endured over the last four years, and its findings are a damning indictment of the Saudi coalition intervention and our government’s support for their war. Beyond the estimated 233,000 deaths caused by the war (102,000 from fighting, 131,000 from hunger and disease), the war has set back the entire country by a generation. It will take decades for Yemen to recover, and that’s assuming that the war stops now. If the war continues for much longer, the loss of life will be even greater and the long-term damage will be almost unimaginable. According to the report, at least 140,000 victims of the war on Yemen have been children under the age of 5. They are among the most vulnerable, and they have borne the brunt of both mass starvation and the cholera epidemic. One Yemeni child dies approximately every twelve minutes.
Seems like more African and Middle Eastern countries are going this way. Regional wars and tribal conflicts forever.
I hate to say it but... Good, let them kill each other. The #1 remaining place for out of control population growth is the African continent. Not sure we should care if they want to kill each other. The only reason we do care is because we want their resources anyways.
Seems like more African and Middle Eastern countries are going this way. Regional wars and tribal conflicts forever.
I hate to say it but... Good, let them kill each other. The #1 remaining place for out of control population growth is the African continent. Not sure we should care if they want to kill each other. The only reason we do care is because we want their resources anyways.
Short of forced sterilization or just plain genocide, if you want people to have fewer children, the best solution is always to increase their living standards and the infrastucture of their country. That always lowers birth rate. The reason they have so many children is partly, if they're a really shit-poor country, that they know they'll lose of their children to starvation, disease, war, or simply someone from the oppposite side in a civil war enters her house and smashes her kids' skulls in. But also, the more children, the greater the chance one of them lands a good job so they can take care of you when you're old.
Not that that means you should start caring if they kill each other.
