THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by PartyOf5 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:41 am

Back in 2009, Hillary presented Russia with a reset button as a symbolic gesture to improve relations between the countries. Today, those same people who praised the reset and bettering relations with Russia are now condemning anything even resembling cordial relations with them.

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Post by Arc Light » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:49 am

Are y'all sure the #walkaway thing just isn't the right getting trolled?

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Post by pineapplemike » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:39 am

@arc I think the #walkaway movement is real but I think it's overestimated, I heard somewhere that a significant percentage of #walkaway posts also have #maga and pro-Trump hashtags, so probably a bunch of right wingers on twitter giving it extra momentum instead of genuine leftys. Besides, while it's pretty apparent that plenty of democrats are walking away from the extreme left, this movement doesn't specify where they're walking to, and when it comes time to vote we all know who they'll side with

@party5 the difference is that all those people freaking out fully believe Russia hacked and released the emails of a political party candidate months prior to a crucial presidential election. I imagine plenty of us support improving democracy by increasing information to the public, whichever side it falls on, but it still seems fucked up for a foreign power to be the authority on what private emails we see, and I would prefer if it didn't become the norm.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:54 pm

Arc Light wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:49 am
Are y'all sure the #walkaway thing just isn't the right getting trolled?
How can we be sure it's not Putin trolls?

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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:34 pm

To this day, however, the intelligence agencies that released this assessment have failed to provide the American people with any actual evidence substantiating their claims about how the DNC material was obtained or by whom. Astonishingly and often overlooked, the authors of the declassified ICA themselves admit that their “judgments are not intended to imply that we have proof that shows something to be a fact.”

That is why The Nation published Patrick Lawrence’s article “A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack.” The article largely reported on a recently published memo prepared by Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), which argued, based on their own investigation, that the theft of the DNC e-mails was not a hack, but some kind of inside leak that did not involve Russia.
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:55 pm

Lost in a year that often appeared to veer into our peculiarly American kind of hysteria is the absence of any credible evidence of what happened last year and who was responsible for it. It is tiresome to note, but none has been made available. Instead, we are urged to accept the word of institutions and senior officials with long records of deception. These officials profess “high confidence” in their “assessment” as to what happened in the spring and summer of last year—this standing as their authoritative judgment. Few have noticed since these evasive terms first appeared that an assessment is an opinion, nothing more, and to express high confidence is an upside-down way of admitting the absence of certain knowledge. This is how officials avoid putting their names on the assertions we are so strongly urged to accept—as the record shows many of them have done.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:13 pm

Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.

What is the maximum achievable speed? Forensicator recently ran a test download of a comparable data volume (and using a server speed not available in 2016) 40 miles from his computer via a server 20 miles away and came up with a speed of 11.8 megabytes per second—half what the DNC operation would need were it a hack. Other investigators have built on this finding. Folden and Edward Loomis say a survey published August 3, 2016, by www.speedtest.net/reports is highly reliable and use it as their thumbnail index. It indicated that the highest average ISP speeds of first-half 2016 were achieved by Xfinity and Cox Communications. These speeds averaged 15.6 megabytes per second and 14.7 megabytes per second, respectively. Peak speeds at higher rates were recorded intermittently but still did not reach the required 22.7 megabytes per second.

“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” Last week Forensicator reported on a speed test he conducted more recently. It tightens the case considerably. “Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote. “Further, local copy speeds are measured, demonstrating that 23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).”
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:22 pm

Seth Rich.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:33 pm

I know some places have faster connections than average.

Also, some people are using MBps and Mbps interchangeably, which is a problem.
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